'The whole media crawled into a very narrow hole - and is still there'

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This summer on her podcast, Bari Weiss described my guest today as one of the best writers in America. I think she’s right.

During the month of December, here at Lean Out, I’m speaking with independent journalists that I admire. And I’m particularly pleased to bring you today’s conversation, with a Substack writer who’s had a big impact on my thinking.

Freddie deBoer is an independent journalist in Brooklyn, New York. He’s the author of The Cult of Smart: How Our Broken Education System Perpetuates Social Injustice, and he writes an eponymous newsletter at Substack.

Freddie deBoer is my guest, today on Lean Out. Transcript to come for paid subscribers. (This was recorded on December 6, before the latest revelations on the Twitter Files from Bari Weiss.)