Half my family lives in Burma, where people are fighting, dying by the thousands, to regain democracy.
In Canada, the people have thrown it in the fire and poured gasoline all over it. Shame on Canadians. You all deserve to live in Burma, and the Burmese in a free country. Shame. The price of democracy and freedom is not ambivalence, blind faith trust, blindly believing the media, blindly following and accepting corrupt politicians. Shame on Canadians. Trudeau is not the problem. Trudeau is a symptom of a diseased society. A society that didn't just give an inch, it gave a mile to tyranny.
Completely agree. I am horrified at how quickly and easily everything fell apart. And for what? The blockades were gone, the truckers would have peacefully moved on if only Trudeau had acknowledged their issues. I am disgusted with most of our government and most of all the deplorable Trudeau, the puppet of the WEF. Worst of all, I don’t think the majority of Canadians have a clue about what is happening, or they just don’t care.
Canadian here. Well said, and unfortunately quite true. I think Canadians have had it so good for so long, that the possibility of the government becoming an actual threat to them doesn't even enter into their mind. I think the main cause is Canada becoming an increasingly secular country; with the idea that man has a certain dignity ascribed by God, and therefore certain liberties, no longer holding sway.
Yes, I do have faith; I think this will eventualyl pass. One of my hopes is that the movement the truckers started will eventually be successful, and international pressure brought to bear on our government.
Democracy itself is at risk when you allow a minority to make up whatever facts and law they desire in order to impose THEIR control. The Fruckers took a mile (by force); they should not have been given an inch! Freedom deserves respect, but those who push it in your face need to earn it!
Can someone please explain to me why the NDP even exists as a federal party at this point? Trudeau says jump and Jagmeet Singh asks how high, so they are somewhere between unofficial backbenchers and controlled opposition as far as I can tell.
Part of the problem is that Jagmeet Singh and Trudeau are cut from the exact same cloth. They're both wealthy, privileged people whose backgrounds are essentially the same as the people who make up the moneyed professional classes in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver. (Singh wears bespoke suits, sports a Rolex and went to a private school in the U.S.).
The days of the NDP as the authentic voice of the working class are over as long as Singh is the leader. I'd be surprised if Singh has ever interacted with a working person for any length of time apart from instances in which he's giving orders.
I think it was Globe & Mail’s Jeffrey Simpson who once referred to Thomas Mulcair, Singh’s predecessor, as a “career politician.” Singh is clearly motivated by power and has calculated well as the NDP is the easiest path to federal power. How sad we can’t even appreciate the party for its principled positions anymore.
Yes, the NDP began to take the wrong direction, in my view, with Mulcair as leader. Excellent parliamentarian, but poor judgement in moving the party towards the centre in the hope that could somehow get them elected under his leadership. There was that window of opportunity there but he blew it by selling out on the party’s principles. After that, the party lost its way and Trudeau was able to usurp the so-called left position. There doesn’t seem much left of the party in terms of principles, and its MPs seem content on being the Liberal lackeys. The party seems to have outlived its purpose and value in the Canadian political landscape, which was always to be the real opposition to the government and the defender of working class values. I was a lifelong supporter and the party is virtually dead to me. The only person who has spoken up is former NDP MP Svend Robinson. That doesn’t surprise me as he always took stances that he believed in even if it went against the majority view.
Identity politics makes it easy for people like Singh to take over...it is a colonial scam, using skin color or gender to proclaim caring about the poor, using ppl like Singh and Trudeau as empty avatars.
Simple explanation re: Singh. He, like Trudeau and Freeland, is a "graduate" of the World Economic Forum's Young World Leaders sect. Let's get clear about this: they work for the WEF and associates to bring about one world technocratic governance; they neither work for Canada nor represent Canadians.
It should be called the Young Cult Leaders sect. They learn inculcation and inversion techniques, how to abuse power, how to look deeply into your eyes while lying and betraying you. They are chosen by Schwab because they are devoid of empathy. Most have family histories of secret societies, wealth and eugenics. They are desensitized to suffering and death, especially of animals and children, and are capable of participating in genocide.
Poor little shits are behind schedule and in a rush now because our spirit of humanity is too powerful for them. Revolution of the heart.
I woke up this morning thinking about Ed Broadbent, the former leader of the NDP, founder of the Broadbent Institute, and leader of many noble democratic initiatives. I have always respected him greatly as a level-headed, straight-talking defender of democratic rights and fighter for social justice. I wondered why he, and so many in the NDP, weren’t speaking up against the Emergency Measures Act (never mind Singh, he’s a lost cause and in no way represents the values and lineage of the Party). So I looked up Broadbent’s stance on this draconian measure and was frankly shocked by the claptrap coming out of his mouth, such as, “The attempt to terrorize, intimidate, and even overthrow our democracy should have been stopped at the end of the first week of occupation.” I could go on. This is simply unbelievable coming from a man of his stature and integrity. The only way I can explain why he would make such a statement is that this whole scenario is not about politics in the usual sense; it is about “vaccine ideology.” In other words, anyone who opposes this ideology by refusing to inject a vaccine into their body is considered an enemy of the state. This isn’t the case in all countries, such as Japan, which do not discriminate against or stigmatize people who choose not to be vaccinated. But it is here, and to a horrifying extent when people like Ed Broadbent jump onboard the trampling of citizens’ rights.
It's not about vaccine ideology; it's about the tactics of the protest and the impact it had on innocent citizens. Preventing goods from crossing the border, for just one example, has a negative impact on working truckers, small business unable to access their goods etc. Why is no one here talking about the trampling of those rights? I won't even get into the horror show in Ottawa, where organizers wanted to form a government with the GG and the Senate. Now there's law and order for you. How about giving some consideration to the 80%?
If that were true, the NDP wouldn't have supported BLM as they burned cities to the ground. Jagmeet Singh even tweeted about how Kyle Rittenhouse's acquittal was a tragedy of injustice - the NDP doesn't even attempt to distinguish between American and Canadian woke movements at this point.
From what I understand, all those blockades were cleared before the Emergency Measures Act was invoked, and the goods were passing the border unobstructively. Do you have other information that disputes this? As a supporter of the protest, I was never in favour of the blockades. I don’t know the whole story behind them, who organized them, etc. It wasn’t something that the main convoy organizers seemed to promote, as far as I could tell. It could have been a situation of too many cooks in the kitchen. This was, and is, a grassroots movement, and they did their best to stay focused on its purpose in a peaceful manner. There were some obvious flaws in some of the organizers’ stances, as you mention. And some messiness unfortunately, but inevitably, occurred in the process. Enough to warrant this harsh and extreme measure? The impact on ordinary, innocent Canadian citizens and workers through these unnecessary mandates has been devastating. Thus, the passion, conviction, and determination of the protestors and their supporters (who count for much more than 20%, and include both vaccinated and unvaccinated.)
Regurgitated MSM talking points won't help you now. We are officially at war. The Regime has foolishy started creating martyrs: Female martyrs. A very bad strategy indeed.
Newton's third law always holds: The Reaction is coming, and it's usually hardest on those who think their screen is a window. Buckle up.
How long was there a standoff in Caledonia, including *armed* blockades and private citizens denied access to their property? Did the govt see fit to invoke the Emergencies Act then? Why not? As for trampling of rights, the 80% apprently had no problem with other peoples right to attend church, open their businesses, go on vacation or eat in a restaurant set aside for their 'safety'. Majorities are able to protect themselves; the whole point of rights is to protect minorities.
I'm with you on this. Most of these posts look to me like they are about different events from what I've been watching and reading about and a different country from the one I live in. I saw a group of people with vague demands happily confining the freedom of the people of Ottawa. I saw an Act allow coordination of police forces that impressively, systematically, in a disciplined manner freed those streets. I applaud invoking the Act and I am impressed with the way it has been used to enhance freedom.
Enhance freedom? How about the freedom of the truck drivers to decline a vaccine without losing their job? Whatever you saw on the streets of Ottawa was a result of a govt not willing to show the slightest consideration or respect to a group of people who have served their fellow Canadians for the last two years. The rest of the world is moving past the pandemic; there is no objective reason we can't as well. This was simply a power grab by the govt, nothing more.
Herb the sheeple guess you could not wait for that effective ¨vaccine"right ? My family all got the vaccine and boosters all caught C O V I D at least 2 times after the vaccine , Iḿ the only one that did not get sick and I sat at the table with them was in close contact . Wuzz up with that Herby baby ? Trust your Guberment yeah they be lookin after you , bet you stilll wear a mask , . Follow the Science , lets see what kind of respiratory problems you have 5 years down the road because of excessive mask wearing
NDP says it all , No Damn Place for them these days . They are less that useless , might as well join the Liberal party . Mioosemeat Singh just goes along with whatever Jr wants , the party has lost its way . What we need os leaders with backbone and vision , not these cowering spineless amoebas giving in to the latest fad , fringe group that comes along
Trudeau and Freeland have both cemented their legacy as petty tyrants, for what? To ban unvaccinated truckers from crossing the border? There's no way not to interpret that as a win for their enemies.
This was a horribly boneheaded miscalculation by them both, and it couldn't have happened to worse people.
The claim that the fabulous duo are dictators at large has a historical basis it seems. Back in 2014/15 this observation of the Liberal leader and his use of police force and general underhandedness were noted:
How ironic that our unelected Senate (arguably the most undemocratic institution in Canadian politics) were the ones to put their foot down and restore civil liberties. Trudeau only gave up his emergency powers when it became clear the Senate was going to strip him of them if he didn't volunteer to give them up first.
Ironic indeed. My preference would have been for the Senate to strip him of power. This would have helped us to be rid of him sooner. Why was there even any negotiation one wonders? Aren't the Senate deliberations confidential?
all his moves point to tyrannical leadership since Covid started: He tried to get unilateral powers of taxing and spending (thankfully voted down), the censorship of the internet, hate speech... all laid down so that his opponents have no voice and now no financial security. It's shameful. Likely time to leave Canada
Texas? Tennessee? Florida? At least in the US, the individual states have significant power to resist the Federal government's over-reach. I never understood Americans' defence of the second amendment (the right to bear arms) until recently. A well armed population is not as easy to push around. A terrifying thought, but if these clowns continue down the road they're going, civil war is not out of the realm of possibility.
Raised in Canada, moved to the US 20 years ago. I agree. The Second Amendment wasn’t created for self defense. It was to prevent tyranny. That’s why the left constantly tries to make it harder for law abiding citizens to own firearms. Also agree that the Constitutional Republic model here guarantees states to have equal footing as the federal govt (at least in theory). So freer states are seeing massive influx of movers fleeing the failing cities in Democrat states. People vote with their feet.
Thank you for presenting this, Tara. What is happening is truly frightening. I cannot understand how people can be more worried about peaceful protests against existing government overreach than they are of increasing government overreach in response. We are truly in dictatorship territory and the useful idiots think it's just fine, it'll never be them under the jackboot.
I've lived in Canada my whole life and the insanity that has happened is sadly obvious. I was expecting this from the beginning and sadly I was right. I'm glad to hear there are people pushing back now.
Tara's guest stated that one of their concerns about the Emergencies Act being deployed is that the rationale for it was partly speculative. Speaking of speculation, can you offer some evidence that every dissenter towards government policy is now in danger of being "un-personed"? And are there independent professional opinion polls supporting your idea that (all? most?) immigrants are unhappy with the version of dissent in the streets of Ottawa coming to an end?
"can you offer some evidence that every dissenter towards government policy is now in danger of being "un-personed"?"
Yes, namely that Trudeau and his gov't get to unilaterally decide who is and isn't an "extremist", and Trudeau already has demonstrated a track record of labeling everyone who disagrees with him an "extremist".
QED, everyone who doesn't support Trudeau as a tinpot dictator is at risk of being labeled an extremist.
This video excerpt is definitely evidence that TV personality Bill thinks Trudeau used ill-considered rhetoric. I think our Prime Minister has done that a couple of times since that speech. This immature recklessness is partly why I don't vote for him. But it does not translate into proof that Canada has achieved Cuba or China levels of squashing dissenters. That is also ill-considered, unhelpful (and tiresome) rhetoric.
It's more that Trudeau has given himself the ABILITY to quash dissenters en masse like they do in Cuba and China. The question is, can Trudeau be trusted to wield that power responsibly?
The measure of a free society isn't what the govt is currently doing, or even might do; it's what it has the *power* to do if it so chooses. Right now the govt has the ability to unilaterally freeze the bank account of any Canadian without charge or trial. Whether they actually use that power is beside the point; the fact that some people might now be intimidated into not supporting a cause they otherwise might have, is a problem in itself.
Your position is similar to the one offered above by Miles. But here are the inconvenient facts: (1) The government already had this policing power before and will have it later. This will be the case until the lawmakers change the law. A party could do the hard work of getting elected, making such a law-change part of its platform. (2) It is unlikely that such a party would get elected, because the majority of Canadians know that a firm hand is needed in certain crises. Such as employing public health policies to quell a pandemic.
I think you're missing other inconvenient facts: 1) I've never said the law shouldn't be on the books. There are genuine cases where extreme govt power is justified. But the last time this power was used, then called the War Measures Act, there were actual bombs going off and a govt minister had been murdered. And before that, when Germany had invaded Poland and we were at war. What specifically justified it's invocation this time, when there had been no serious injuries reported, much less deaths? Especially when the blockade in Windsor had already been cleared peacefully and the protestors in Ottawa had agreed to move some trucks out of residential areas? 2) Throughout history, majorities have always supported governments using a 'firm hand' to deal with minorities they don't like. The point of constitutions, and particularly bills/ charters of rights is to restrict their ability to do so. And finally, what specific health policies are served by requiring a trucker to be vaccinated as opposed to taking a simple PCR / antigen test when they cross the border?
If the gov't already had the power, they wouldn't be the first ones to ever call in the Emergency Act in its history, and oh yeah the Act itself lays out very specific criteria for its use (e.g. foreign invasion), and none of those criteria are met by some honking horns.
Sorry, I was not clear. By "power" I meant the tool of the Emergencies Act. Until a court challenge forces amendments or a future government strikes it down. The protester energy could be directed toward these two effective avenues: court challenges or election campaigns.
The Emergencies Act, as written, requires an actual Emergency that honking horns do not come close to. It doesn't need to be amended, merely adhered to as-is.
Your approach requires either constant elections every time Trudeau breaks a rule (which is a regular occurrence), or else puts way too much onus on deep-pocketed watchdogs to take the gov't to court for violating the constitution, as opposed to the gov't just not violating the constitution in the first place.
I do not know if Yuri is a random (or powerless) commenter, but I do know that he offered some serious assertions that could use some back-up. So, thanks for the advice, but I am just fine seeing if the Original Author has any relevant data to add. Or you, for that matter.
"Dear Yuri"...that salutation might not advance your goal. Google his full name: Yuri Bezmenov. Then if you still have questions, come back here for further guidance.
Ha! I am a big fan of spy novels. The pseudonym Yuri Bezmenov is deliciously ambiguous. However, whatever it is supposed to signify (a wake-up call?), I remain undeterred in calling the wake-up-caller to use clear thinking and offer facts. In the present climate (reflected perfectly in this thread) a “third way” approach is called for to cut through the self-serving noise on both sides.
The Parliamentary approval of the invocation of this Act is out-and-out fascism and the assumption of Dictatorial Powers by Trudeau, the Liberal and NDP parties and the government. As Law Professor Ryan Alford so cogently puts it - "This is banana republic dictator behaviour".
In fact, Trudeau has been doing this ever since the Pandemic began. He can use this, as he probably will, to prevent people from using their constitutional rights to sue the government for exceeding its Constitutional powers and to put a stop to the dictatorship Trudeau has create with the help of the NDP and others. Not only is this outrageous, it is criminal.
This is what Hitler and his National Socialists (the NAZIs) did in Germany as they were consolidating their dictatorship. This is why those who know and those who care have been describing Trudeau as a fascist dictator.
Your former employer, the CBC, bears some of the blame for the situation we find ourselves in. The blatant propaganda coming out of that organization is mind-boggling. And it does have an impact on people's assessment of the legitimacy of this "State of Emergency." The Globe and Mail isn't much better. How did we end up with Canada's version of Pravda?
The latest and greatest ideology sweeping MSM newsrooms on both sides of the border is that "moral clarity" (i.e. sticking to progressive talking points) is more important than getting the facts right
I've also heard it referred to as "poetic truth." It's not factual, sometimes it's even an outright lie, but it promotes the cause of what they consider a higher truth. This is the same kind of "higher cause" mentality that leads the global elites to push for things like programmable digital currency, which would allow them to decide what you are allowed to spend your money on. Because they know best, of course.
"As noted by the Miami Herald, it is rare for Trudeau’s government to criticize Cuba where Canada has considerable economic interests. Canada not only pumps millions of dollars into the economy through tourism but Canadian companies hold lucrative mining contracts on the island.
The condemnation was triggered by Cuba’s outrageous sentencing of protesters from last July to up to 20 years in prison. The government was clearly correct in expressing its outrage.
However, there was something jarring in the Trudeau government then adding “Canada strongly advocates for freedom of expression and the right to peaceful assembly free from intimidation. We stand with the people of Cuba in their aspiration for #democracy.”"
As I look at what is taking place in Canada right now I'm worried for how it will effect my country, the USA. We have no shortage of leftists in our government that are engaging in the same type of radical lawless behavior.
I worry that we may soon have cause to employ use of our 2A rights for the sole reason they were they were included in our Bill of Rights.
I hope it doesn't come to that, but I worry it will.
As noted in this interview, there are reasons to be concerned with the invocation of the emergencies act in response to the truckers protest. Our basis of law depends greatly on precedence. Once this emergencies act is used so casually against a mostly peaceful protest, what would stop it being used for ever more frivolous actions? We have taken a dangerous turn away from democratic rule. We may never fully recover from this.
Funnily enough, Jagmeet Singh has said he will only support this type of law enforcement crackdown if it's directed at white people. How he expects that to be a sustainable precedent is beyond me.
This is absolutely ridiculous. What kind of hogwash have you people been listening to? Fox News obviously. This was NOT a peaceful protest. I live in Ottawa. These were for the most part, thugs and hooligans who immobilized a large section of downtown Ottawa for over three weeks. It’s not as if they were simply “protesting” on Parliament Hill. They TOOK OVER THE DOWNTOWN!! They threatened people who wore masks, they honked their horns all night long, they blared music all night, they set up hot tubs and saunas and bouncy castles as if it’s okay to completely take over downtown streets for their own amusement. Businesses couldn’t operate. People were afraid to leave their homes. The vast majority of Canadians were completely behind the Emergency Act. There was no other way to get rid of this nonsense. The police did it peacefully and with restraint. Nobody was hurt. Those watching Fox News are being fed a bunch of lies. Because Trudeau took this action he would win an election in a landslide if it were held tomorrow. Just stop the lies, please.
Polls in fact suggest that about 1/3 of people are absolutely appalled by this, 1/3 think it is great. The other 1/3 are likely so busy working two-plus jobs that they don't really have the energy to care about this. So, the vast majority are not in favour, by any means. I also live in Ottawa, and I was not afraid to leave my home. I went out on many occasions to speak with the protesters to hear their concerns. I saw Quebecers and Alberta's sharing a drink around a firepit and sharing their solidarity in being Canadian, an experience they were happy to share with me. So, your experience is only your experience, not everyone's.
The entire point of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is so that the majority cannot trample individual liberties. So it doesn't really matter if the 'majority' of Canadian support the use of the Emergencies Act - which I doubt is true in any case. There is a difference between supporting police action to end the protests - and supporting suspending the constitution when any Canadian - not just lawyers - can read the legislation and know that the conditions in the Act haven't been met. This is simply an exercise in intimidation by Trudeau and Freeland. It is enabled by people like you who don't seem to understand that you could be next. Have you ever donated money to Greenpeace? What if Greenpeace had given money to the protesters who literally attacked the Gaslink camp in BC. Would you accept that it is OK that your credit cards and bank accounts were frozen for supporting Greenpeace? That is what is happening to people. It was perfectly legal to donate money to the convoy when people did so - but it was turned retroactively into a crime by the government. Except that the crown needs to prove crimes - the government has removed that inconvenience.
"There was no other way to get rid of this nonsense."
Citation needed - why was it necessary to freeze people's bank accounts and cancel their credit cards? Everything the police did, they could have done without the Emergency Act.
If Trudeau could win tomorrow, he wouldn't have had to threaten to turn the Emergency Act vote into a confidence vote, in order to blackmail his own Liberal MPs into voting in support.
I also live in Ottawa (Vanier) and while I believe the protesters went too far, your characterization of the group as hooligans and thugs is hyperbolic. I visited Wellington street on the first Saturday of the protest. While I saw some stupid behaviour, it was not the assembly of bloodthirsty goons you’re making it out to be.
Your adoration for Trudeau’s invocation of the Emergencies Act is far more alarming to me than any member of the Freedom Convoy.
Speaking of the working class, Jordon Peterson's interview of Rex Murphy is hitting the 2 million view mark. The small fringe minority in action yet again.
Do you live in Ottawa and did you witness what you describe first-hand? I don’t live there, and I relied on a great deal of video coverage of people waving flags, dancing, singing, having a good time while they were engaged in a peaceful protest in the freezing cold. Any law against that? I never saw any evidence of what you describe either in the footage or in the press conferences with the organizers, in which they stressed the peaceful intent of the protests and denounced the use of violence in any form. I’m an older professional woman who would have been glad to join the peaceful protest as one of your so-called “thugs and hooligans” if I could have gone.
Laurie, one of the things you said I agree with. The horns were over the top, but they did mostly stop after the injunction. To say that nobody was hurt when the riot cops showed up on Feb 18th however is willfully ignorant. Kneeing someone on the ground was disallowed in the MMA because it could result in death. I have no idea if this person survived this attack :
Honked horns? Blared music? Was it like: a) Sarajevo or b) Paris under the Germans? Trudeau should call an election then. Right now. Somehow I don't see that happening.
¨ Businesses couldn’t operate Because Trudeau took this action he would win an election in a landslide if it were held tomorrow. " but lockdowns were fine , right ? You are a lemming follow the crowd off the cliff , stop ingesting magic mushrooms just stop the hallucinatory crap Tru-doh win a landslide , back to planet earth please .
Exactly Laurie. I live in Ottawa too. When read some of these comments I think we have entered into the "right" zone. I'm used to hearing vitriol about Trudeau being a "fascist" but now here as well we hear name calling Singh and Broadbent because they supported the Emergencies Act as if they didn't really believe it was necessary. This is sounding more and more like a pro Con forum, the party who claimed they were the "law and order party" What a joke...now supporting illegal occupiers, far right American money supporting these anarchists that said theywere all about, not mandates (oh boo hoo) but were actually about the overthrow of a democratically elected government as they stated in their so-called MOU. They need to take responsibility for their actions instead of whining about "freedom". Trying living in a real fascist state and do what you did.
I guess you think it’s perfectly okay for the prime minister to call Canadian citizens racists and misogynists, etc, etc., etc.
I’ve never supported the Conservative Party in my life. I have voted NDP all my life. This has nothing to do with pro-Con. It is pro human, and about upholding civil rights.
Have a look at what the organization standing up for our Charter rights has to say about invoking the Emergency Measures
I voted for Trudeau in 2015. Have voted Liberal and NDP provincially for years. I am firmly pro-environment, pro-choice, pro-equality. I vehemently disagree with the invocation of the Emergencies Act. Perhaps give your fellow countrymen the benefit of the doubt before throwing labels on people.
As for Ottawa, I can't help but notice you brush off people's concerns with mandates with "oh boo hoo", so allow me to return the favour about your streets being shut down for a few weeks: OH BOO HOO.
What would they do in a "real" fascist state? Hold you without bail on a mischief charge and cut off your access to banking so you could't mount a criminal defense?
Half my family lives in Burma, where people are fighting, dying by the thousands, to regain democracy.
In Canada, the people have thrown it in the fire and poured gasoline all over it. Shame on Canadians. You all deserve to live in Burma, and the Burmese in a free country. Shame. The price of democracy and freedom is not ambivalence, blind faith trust, blindly believing the media, blindly following and accepting corrupt politicians. Shame on Canadians. Trudeau is not the problem. Trudeau is a symptom of a diseased society. A society that didn't just give an inch, it gave a mile to tyranny.
Completely agree. I am horrified at how quickly and easily everything fell apart. And for what? The blockades were gone, the truckers would have peacefully moved on if only Trudeau had acknowledged their issues. I am disgusted with most of our government and most of all the deplorable Trudeau, the puppet of the WEF. Worst of all, I don’t think the majority of Canadians have a clue about what is happening, or they just don’t care.
Desperately thinking of a new place to move to….
Like where? Every "first world country" has similar creeping authoritarianism.
There's no running from this fight.
It would have to be a third world country, Mexico? I’ll take my chances with the cartels rather than Trudeau and Singh😉
Canadian here. Well said, and unfortunately quite true. I think Canadians have had it so good for so long, that the possibility of the government becoming an actual threat to them doesn't even enter into their mind. I think the main cause is Canada becoming an increasingly secular country; with the idea that man has a certain dignity ascribed by God, and therefore certain liberties, no longer holding sway.
Yes, I do have faith; I think this will eventualyl pass. One of my hopes is that the movement the truckers started will eventually be successful, and international pressure brought to bear on our government.
Beautifully said.
Democracy itself is at risk when you allow a minority to make up whatever facts and law they desire in order to impose THEIR control. The Fruckers took a mile (by force); they should not have been given an inch! Freedom deserves respect, but those who push it in your face need to earn it!
They have earned it - thousands of times over. Have you?
Can someone please explain to me why the NDP even exists as a federal party at this point? Trudeau says jump and Jagmeet Singh asks how high, so they are somewhere between unofficial backbenchers and controlled opposition as far as I can tell.
Part of the problem is that Jagmeet Singh and Trudeau are cut from the exact same cloth. They're both wealthy, privileged people whose backgrounds are essentially the same as the people who make up the moneyed professional classes in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver. (Singh wears bespoke suits, sports a Rolex and went to a private school in the U.S.).
The days of the NDP as the authentic voice of the working class are over as long as Singh is the leader. I'd be surprised if Singh has ever interacted with a working person for any length of time apart from instances in which he's giving orders.
I think it was Globe & Mail’s Jeffrey Simpson who once referred to Thomas Mulcair, Singh’s predecessor, as a “career politician.” Singh is clearly motivated by power and has calculated well as the NDP is the easiest path to federal power. How sad we can’t even appreciate the party for its principled positions anymore.
Yes, the NDP began to take the wrong direction, in my view, with Mulcair as leader. Excellent parliamentarian, but poor judgement in moving the party towards the centre in the hope that could somehow get them elected under his leadership. There was that window of opportunity there but he blew it by selling out on the party’s principles. After that, the party lost its way and Trudeau was able to usurp the so-called left position. There doesn’t seem much left of the party in terms of principles, and its MPs seem content on being the Liberal lackeys. The party seems to have outlived its purpose and value in the Canadian political landscape, which was always to be the real opposition to the government and the defender of working class values. I was a lifelong supporter and the party is virtually dead to me. The only person who has spoken up is former NDP MP Svend Robinson. That doesn’t surprise me as he always took stances that he believed in even if it went against the majority view.
Identity politics makes it easy for people like Singh to take over...it is a colonial scam, using skin color or gender to proclaim caring about the poor, using ppl like Singh and Trudeau as empty avatars.
Simple explanation re: Singh. He, like Trudeau and Freeland, is a "graduate" of the World Economic Forum's Young World Leaders sect. Let's get clear about this: they work for the WEF and associates to bring about one world technocratic governance; they neither work for Canada nor represent Canadians.
It should be called the Young Cult Leaders sect. They learn inculcation and inversion techniques, how to abuse power, how to look deeply into your eyes while lying and betraying you. They are chosen by Schwab because they are devoid of empathy. Most have family histories of secret societies, wealth and eugenics. They are desensitized to suffering and death, especially of animals and children, and are capable of participating in genocide.
Poor little shits are behind schedule and in a rush now because our spirit of humanity is too powerful for them. Revolution of the heart.
I call them the Corporate Feudalists.
I woke up this morning thinking about Ed Broadbent, the former leader of the NDP, founder of the Broadbent Institute, and leader of many noble democratic initiatives. I have always respected him greatly as a level-headed, straight-talking defender of democratic rights and fighter for social justice. I wondered why he, and so many in the NDP, weren’t speaking up against the Emergency Measures Act (never mind Singh, he’s a lost cause and in no way represents the values and lineage of the Party). So I looked up Broadbent’s stance on this draconian measure and was frankly shocked by the claptrap coming out of his mouth, such as, “The attempt to terrorize, intimidate, and even overthrow our democracy should have been stopped at the end of the first week of occupation.” I could go on. This is simply unbelievable coming from a man of his stature and integrity. The only way I can explain why he would make such a statement is that this whole scenario is not about politics in the usual sense; it is about “vaccine ideology.” In other words, anyone who opposes this ideology by refusing to inject a vaccine into their body is considered an enemy of the state. This isn’t the case in all countries, such as Japan, which do not discriminate against or stigmatize people who choose not to be vaccinated. But it is here, and to a horrifying extent when people like Ed Broadbent jump onboard the trampling of citizens’ rights.
I didn't know that about Broadbent. Horrible to hear.
It's not about vaccine ideology; it's about the tactics of the protest and the impact it had on innocent citizens. Preventing goods from crossing the border, for just one example, has a negative impact on working truckers, small business unable to access their goods etc. Why is no one here talking about the trampling of those rights? I won't even get into the horror show in Ottawa, where organizers wanted to form a government with the GG and the Senate. Now there's law and order for you. How about giving some consideration to the 80%?
If that were true, the NDP wouldn't have supported BLM as they burned cities to the ground. Jagmeet Singh even tweeted about how Kyle Rittenhouse's acquittal was a tragedy of injustice - the NDP doesn't even attempt to distinguish between American and Canadian woke movements at this point.
From what I understand, all those blockades were cleared before the Emergency Measures Act was invoked, and the goods were passing the border unobstructively. Do you have other information that disputes this? As a supporter of the protest, I was never in favour of the blockades. I don’t know the whole story behind them, who organized them, etc. It wasn’t something that the main convoy organizers seemed to promote, as far as I could tell. It could have been a situation of too many cooks in the kitchen. This was, and is, a grassroots movement, and they did their best to stay focused on its purpose in a peaceful manner. There were some obvious flaws in some of the organizers’ stances, as you mention. And some messiness unfortunately, but inevitably, occurred in the process. Enough to warrant this harsh and extreme measure? The impact on ordinary, innocent Canadian citizens and workers through these unnecessary mandates has been devastating. Thus, the passion, conviction, and determination of the protestors and their supporters (who count for much more than 20%, and include both vaccinated and unvaccinated.)
The protestors were cleared along with the bridges BEFORE the vote on the emergencies act.
Regurgitated MSM talking points won't help you now. We are officially at war. The Regime has foolishy started creating martyrs: Female martyrs. A very bad strategy indeed.
Newton's third law always holds: The Reaction is coming, and it's usually hardest on those who think their screen is a window. Buckle up.
How long was there a standoff in Caledonia, including *armed* blockades and private citizens denied access to their property? Did the govt see fit to invoke the Emergencies Act then? Why not? As for trampling of rights, the 80% apprently had no problem with other peoples right to attend church, open their businesses, go on vacation or eat in a restaurant set aside for their 'safety'. Majorities are able to protect themselves; the whole point of rights is to protect minorities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_River_land_dispute
I'm with you on this. Most of these posts look to me like they are about different events from what I've been watching and reading about and a different country from the one I live in. I saw a group of people with vague demands happily confining the freedom of the people of Ottawa. I saw an Act allow coordination of police forces that impressively, systematically, in a disciplined manner freed those streets. I applaud invoking the Act and I am impressed with the way it has been used to enhance freedom.
Enhance freedom? How about the freedom of the truck drivers to decline a vaccine without losing their job? Whatever you saw on the streets of Ottawa was a result of a govt not willing to show the slightest consideration or respect to a group of people who have served their fellow Canadians for the last two years. The rest of the world is moving past the pandemic; there is no objective reason we can't as well. This was simply a power grab by the govt, nothing more.
What is it with Herbs and Freudian slips?
You spelled "people", p-o-s-t-s, Herb. C'mon man!!
Maybe go for drive in your "electric" car and recharge.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3Dl7iwUgAE8x0i.jpg
Herbs like wearing Freudian slips ? Just a guess
Herb the sheeple guess you could not wait for that effective ¨vaccine"right ? My family all got the vaccine and boosters all caught C O V I D at least 2 times after the vaccine , Iḿ the only one that did not get sick and I sat at the table with them was in close contact . Wuzz up with that Herby baby ? Trust your Guberment yeah they be lookin after you , bet you stilll wear a mask , . Follow the Science , lets see what kind of respiratory problems you have 5 years down the road because of excessive mask wearing
Well put Miles
NDP says it all , No Damn Place for them these days . They are less that useless , might as well join the Liberal party . Mioosemeat Singh just goes along with whatever Jr wants , the party has lost its way . What we need os leaders with backbone and vision , not these cowering spineless amoebas giving in to the latest fad , fringe group that comes along
Trudeau and Freeland have both cemented their legacy as petty tyrants, for what? To ban unvaccinated truckers from crossing the border? There's no way not to interpret that as a win for their enemies.
This was a horribly boneheaded miscalculation by them both, and it couldn't have happened to worse people.
The claim that the fabulous duo are dictators at large has a historical basis it seems. Back in 2014/15 this observation of the Liberal leader and his use of police force and general underhandedness were noted:
https://www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/trudeau-dictator_b_6314494
Tru-doh is a Dick Tater no doubt , Commieland his second
The Great Awakening vs the Great Reset. Game on.
And Jagmeet Singh and probably most of the NDP.
What happened to Joel Lightbound? Thought he was going to break away from the Trudeau-Freeland cult.
Trudeau threatened to make the Emergencies Act a confidence vote, which would have forced every sitting MP into an early election. The tactic worked.
I would bet Trudeau and Butts threatened a lot more than that.
How ironic that our unelected Senate (arguably the most undemocratic institution in Canadian politics) were the ones to put their foot down and restore civil liberties. Trudeau only gave up his emergency powers when it became clear the Senate was going to strip him of them if he didn't volunteer to give them up first.
Ironic indeed. My preference would have been for the Senate to strip him of power. This would have helped us to be rid of him sooner. Why was there even any negotiation one wonders? Aren't the Senate deliberations confidential?
all his moves point to tyrannical leadership since Covid started: He tried to get unilateral powers of taxing and spending (thankfully voted down), the censorship of the internet, hate speech... all laid down so that his opponents have no voice and now no financial security. It's shameful. Likely time to leave Canada
And go where?
Texas? Tennessee? Florida? At least in the US, the individual states have significant power to resist the Federal government's over-reach. I never understood Americans' defence of the second amendment (the right to bear arms) until recently. A well armed population is not as easy to push around. A terrifying thought, but if these clowns continue down the road they're going, civil war is not out of the realm of possibility.
Raised in Canada, moved to the US 20 years ago. I agree. The Second Amendment wasn’t created for self defense. It was to prevent tyranny. That’s why the left constantly tries to make it harder for law abiding citizens to own firearms. Also agree that the Constitutional Republic model here guarantees states to have equal footing as the federal govt (at least in theory). So freer states are seeing massive influx of movers fleeing the failing cities in Democrat states. People vote with their feet.
I think the power of the US states dwarfs the assumed power of the 2A.
Thank you for presenting this, Tara. What is happening is truly frightening. I cannot understand how people can be more worried about peaceful protests against existing government overreach than they are of increasing government overreach in response. We are truly in dictatorship territory and the useful idiots think it's just fine, it'll never be them under the jackboot.
I've lived in Canada my whole life and the insanity that has happened is sadly obvious. I was expecting this from the beginning and sadly I was right. I'm glad to hear there are people pushing back now.
Canada is no longer a democratic country. Castro Jr. admires China's dictatorship and will unperson every dissenter if he gets his way. Immigrants who fled socialism are seeing those evils rise once again: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-live-the-dream?utm_source=url
Dear Yuri
Tara's guest stated that one of their concerns about the Emergencies Act being deployed is that the rationale for it was partly speculative. Speaking of speculation, can you offer some evidence that every dissenter towards government policy is now in danger of being "un-personed"? And are there independent professional opinion polls supporting your idea that (all? most?) immigrants are unhappy with the version of dissent in the streets of Ottawa coming to an end?
"can you offer some evidence that every dissenter towards government policy is now in danger of being "un-personed"?"
Yes, namely that Trudeau and his gov't get to unilaterally decide who is and isn't an "extremist", and Trudeau already has demonstrated a track record of labeling everyone who disagrees with him an "extremist".
QED, everyone who doesn't support Trudeau as a tinpot dictator is at risk of being labeled an extremist.
Dear Miles
I don't think your commentary quite qualifies as evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srzWWMaHgBE
This video excerpt is definitely evidence that TV personality Bill thinks Trudeau used ill-considered rhetoric. I think our Prime Minister has done that a couple of times since that speech. This immature recklessness is partly why I don't vote for him. But it does not translate into proof that Canada has achieved Cuba or China levels of squashing dissenters. That is also ill-considered, unhelpful (and tiresome) rhetoric.
It's more that Trudeau has given himself the ABILITY to quash dissenters en masse like they do in Cuba and China. The question is, can Trudeau be trusted to wield that power responsibly?
His rhetoric would indicate that no, he cannot.
The measure of a free society isn't what the govt is currently doing, or even might do; it's what it has the *power* to do if it so chooses. Right now the govt has the ability to unilaterally freeze the bank account of any Canadian without charge or trial. Whether they actually use that power is beside the point; the fact that some people might now be intimidated into not supporting a cause they otherwise might have, is a problem in itself.
Your position is similar to the one offered above by Miles. But here are the inconvenient facts: (1) The government already had this policing power before and will have it later. This will be the case until the lawmakers change the law. A party could do the hard work of getting elected, making such a law-change part of its platform. (2) It is unlikely that such a party would get elected, because the majority of Canadians know that a firm hand is needed in certain crises. Such as employing public health policies to quell a pandemic.
I think you're missing other inconvenient facts: 1) I've never said the law shouldn't be on the books. There are genuine cases where extreme govt power is justified. But the last time this power was used, then called the War Measures Act, there were actual bombs going off and a govt minister had been murdered. And before that, when Germany had invaded Poland and we were at war. What specifically justified it's invocation this time, when there had been no serious injuries reported, much less deaths? Especially when the blockade in Windsor had already been cleared peacefully and the protestors in Ottawa had agreed to move some trucks out of residential areas? 2) Throughout history, majorities have always supported governments using a 'firm hand' to deal with minorities they don't like. The point of constitutions, and particularly bills/ charters of rights is to restrict their ability to do so. And finally, what specific health policies are served by requiring a trucker to be vaccinated as opposed to taking a simple PCR / antigen test when they cross the border?
Thankfully, we have courts and public health officials to sort all that.
That's a bit like saying "setting peoples houses on fire isn't a big deal because they have insurance to sort it out".
If the gov't already had the power, they wouldn't be the first ones to ever call in the Emergency Act in its history, and oh yeah the Act itself lays out very specific criteria for its use (e.g. foreign invasion), and none of those criteria are met by some honking horns.
Sorry, I was not clear. By "power" I meant the tool of the Emergencies Act. Until a court challenge forces amendments or a future government strikes it down. The protester energy could be directed toward these two effective avenues: court challenges or election campaigns.
The Emergencies Act, as written, requires an actual Emergency that honking horns do not come close to. It doesn't need to be amended, merely adhered to as-is.
Your approach requires either constant elections every time Trudeau breaks a rule (which is a regular occurrence), or else puts way too much onus on deep-pocketed watchdogs to take the gov't to court for violating the constitution, as opposed to the gov't just not violating the constitution in the first place.
Maybe you'd do better to direct your energies to scrutinize people with actual power rather than a random commenter on the Internet.
Dear Richard
I do not know if Yuri is a random (or powerless) commenter, but I do know that he offered some serious assertions that could use some back-up. So, thanks for the advice, but I am just fine seeing if the Original Author has any relevant data to add. Or you, for that matter.
"Dear Yuri"...that salutation might not advance your goal. Google his full name: Yuri Bezmenov. Then if you still have questions, come back here for further guidance.
Ha! I am a big fan of spy novels. The pseudonym Yuri Bezmenov is deliciously ambiguous. However, whatever it is supposed to signify (a wake-up call?), I remain undeterred in calling the wake-up-caller to use clear thinking and offer facts. In the present climate (reflected perfectly in this thread) a “third way” approach is called for to cut through the self-serving noise on both sides.
Do you think Yuri Bezminov is a fake?
The Parliamentary approval of the invocation of this Act is out-and-out fascism and the assumption of Dictatorial Powers by Trudeau, the Liberal and NDP parties and the government. As Law Professor Ryan Alford so cogently puts it - "This is banana republic dictator behaviour".
In fact, Trudeau has been doing this ever since the Pandemic began. He can use this, as he probably will, to prevent people from using their constitutional rights to sue the government for exceeding its Constitutional powers and to put a stop to the dictatorship Trudeau has create with the help of the NDP and others. Not only is this outrageous, it is criminal.
This is what Hitler and his National Socialists (the NAZIs) did in Germany as they were consolidating their dictatorship. This is why those who know and those who care have been describing Trudeau as a fascist dictator.
Excellent legal analysis. Third world dictators use emergency to crush their political opponents when they cannot argue their position.
Your former employer, the CBC, bears some of the blame for the situation we find ourselves in. The blatant propaganda coming out of that organization is mind-boggling. And it does have an impact on people's assessment of the legitimacy of this "State of Emergency." The Globe and Mail isn't much better. How did we end up with Canada's version of Pravda?
The latest and greatest ideology sweeping MSM newsrooms on both sides of the border is that "moral clarity" (i.e. sticking to progressive talking points) is more important than getting the facts right
https://reason.com/2020/06/24/journalists-abandoning-objectivity-for-moral-clarity-really-just-want-to-call-people-immoral/
I've also heard it referred to as "poetic truth." It's not factual, sometimes it's even an outright lie, but it promotes the cause of what they consider a higher truth. This is the same kind of "higher cause" mentality that leads the global elites to push for things like programmable digital currency, which would allow them to decide what you are allowed to spend your money on. Because they know best, of course.
"This is banana republic dictator behaviour."
Like from ... ahh ... Cuba.
Oh and ...
"As noted by the Miami Herald, it is rare for Trudeau’s government to criticize Cuba where Canada has considerable economic interests. Canada not only pumps millions of dollars into the economy through tourism but Canadian companies hold lucrative mining contracts on the island.
The condemnation was triggered by Cuba’s outrageous sentencing of protesters from last July to up to 20 years in prison. The government was clearly correct in expressing its outrage.
However, there was something jarring in the Trudeau government then adding “Canada strongly advocates for freedom of expression and the right to peaceful assembly free from intimidation. We stand with the people of Cuba in their aspiration for #democracy.”"
The Canadian Civil Liberties Association is launching a legal challenge to the use of the Emergencies Act - I donated earlier today
https://ccla.org/
Fingers crossed my bank account doesn't get frozen!
Thanks Miles donated today , hope it was not a waste of money
They're suing the Trudeau gov't as we speak
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/emergencies-act-canada-2022-ccla-legal-court-1.6799416
As I look at what is taking place in Canada right now I'm worried for how it will effect my country, the USA. We have no shortage of leftists in our government that are engaging in the same type of radical lawless behavior.
I worry that we may soon have cause to employ use of our 2A rights for the sole reason they were they were included in our Bill of Rights.
I hope it doesn't come to that, but I worry it will.
As noted in this interview, there are reasons to be concerned with the invocation of the emergencies act in response to the truckers protest. Our basis of law depends greatly on precedence. Once this emergencies act is used so casually against a mostly peaceful protest, what would stop it being used for ever more frivolous actions? We have taken a dangerous turn away from democratic rule. We may never fully recover from this.
Funnily enough, Jagmeet Singh has said he will only support this type of law enforcement crackdown if it's directed at white people. How he expects that to be a sustainable precedent is beyond me.
So going black face as per the PM is the way forward then.
This is absolutely ridiculous. What kind of hogwash have you people been listening to? Fox News obviously. This was NOT a peaceful protest. I live in Ottawa. These were for the most part, thugs and hooligans who immobilized a large section of downtown Ottawa for over three weeks. It’s not as if they were simply “protesting” on Parliament Hill. They TOOK OVER THE DOWNTOWN!! They threatened people who wore masks, they honked their horns all night long, they blared music all night, they set up hot tubs and saunas and bouncy castles as if it’s okay to completely take over downtown streets for their own amusement. Businesses couldn’t operate. People were afraid to leave their homes. The vast majority of Canadians were completely behind the Emergency Act. There was no other way to get rid of this nonsense. The police did it peacefully and with restraint. Nobody was hurt. Those watching Fox News are being fed a bunch of lies. Because Trudeau took this action he would win an election in a landslide if it were held tomorrow. Just stop the lies, please.
Hot tubs, saunas and bouncy castles. This is like the October Crisis x 1000. The horrors.
Congrats to the brave RCMP for their victory at the Battle of the Bouncy Castle.
I lived through that to compare the 2 is redonculous in the extreme . Unless those bouncy castles were set to blow .
Polls in fact suggest that about 1/3 of people are absolutely appalled by this, 1/3 think it is great. The other 1/3 are likely so busy working two-plus jobs that they don't really have the energy to care about this. So, the vast majority are not in favour, by any means. I also live in Ottawa, and I was not afraid to leave my home. I went out on many occasions to speak with the protesters to hear their concerns. I saw Quebecers and Alberta's sharing a drink around a firepit and sharing their solidarity in being Canadian, an experience they were happy to share with me. So, your experience is only your experience, not everyone's.
The entire point of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is so that the majority cannot trample individual liberties. So it doesn't really matter if the 'majority' of Canadian support the use of the Emergencies Act - which I doubt is true in any case. There is a difference between supporting police action to end the protests - and supporting suspending the constitution when any Canadian - not just lawyers - can read the legislation and know that the conditions in the Act haven't been met. This is simply an exercise in intimidation by Trudeau and Freeland. It is enabled by people like you who don't seem to understand that you could be next. Have you ever donated money to Greenpeace? What if Greenpeace had given money to the protesters who literally attacked the Gaslink camp in BC. Would you accept that it is OK that your credit cards and bank accounts were frozen for supporting Greenpeace? That is what is happening to people. It was perfectly legal to donate money to the convoy when people did so - but it was turned retroactively into a crime by the government. Except that the crown needs to prove crimes - the government has removed that inconvenience.
"There was no other way to get rid of this nonsense."
Citation needed - why was it necessary to freeze people's bank accounts and cancel their credit cards? Everything the police did, they could have done without the Emergency Act.
If Trudeau could win tomorrow, he wouldn't have had to threaten to turn the Emergency Act vote into a confidence vote, in order to blackmail his own Liberal MPs into voting in support.
I also live in Ottawa (Vanier) and while I believe the protesters went too far, your characterization of the group as hooligans and thugs is hyperbolic. I visited Wellington street on the first Saturday of the protest. While I saw some stupid behaviour, it was not the assembly of bloodthirsty goons you’re making it out to be.
Your adoration for Trudeau’s invocation of the Emergencies Act is far more alarming to me than any member of the Freedom Convoy.
Lot of drama to say you hate the working class, Laurie.
https://youtu.be/xHotXbGZiFY
Speaking of the working class, Jordon Peterson's interview of Rex Murphy is hitting the 2 million view mark. The small fringe minority in action yet again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5efyUt5YDU0
Do you live in Ottawa and did you witness what you describe first-hand? I don’t live there, and I relied on a great deal of video coverage of people waving flags, dancing, singing, having a good time while they were engaged in a peaceful protest in the freezing cold. Any law against that? I never saw any evidence of what you describe either in the footage or in the press conferences with the organizers, in which they stressed the peaceful intent of the protests and denounced the use of violence in any form. I’m an older professional woman who would have been glad to join the peaceful protest as one of your so-called “thugs and hooligans” if I could have gone.
Laurie, one of the things you said I agree with. The horns were over the top, but they did mostly stop after the injunction. To say that nobody was hurt when the riot cops showed up on Feb 18th however is willfully ignorant. Kneeing someone on the ground was disallowed in the MMA because it could result in death. I have no idea if this person survived this attack :
https://youtu.be/23RdwjBsiew?list=TLPQMjMwMjIwMjI0nV1fehYHMA&t=1003
Honked horns? Blared music? Was it like: a) Sarajevo or b) Paris under the Germans? Trudeau should call an election then. Right now. Somehow I don't see that happening.
¨ Businesses couldn’t operate Because Trudeau took this action he would win an election in a landslide if it were held tomorrow. " but lockdowns were fine , right ? You are a lemming follow the crowd off the cliff , stop ingesting magic mushrooms just stop the hallucinatory crap Tru-doh win a landslide , back to planet earth please .
Exactly Laurie. I live in Ottawa too. When read some of these comments I think we have entered into the "right" zone. I'm used to hearing vitriol about Trudeau being a "fascist" but now here as well we hear name calling Singh and Broadbent because they supported the Emergencies Act as if they didn't really believe it was necessary. This is sounding more and more like a pro Con forum, the party who claimed they were the "law and order party" What a joke...now supporting illegal occupiers, far right American money supporting these anarchists that said theywere all about, not mandates (oh boo hoo) but were actually about the overthrow of a democratically elected government as they stated in their so-called MOU. They need to take responsibility for their actions instead of whining about "freedom". Trying living in a real fascist state and do what you did.
I guess you think it’s perfectly okay for the prime minister to call Canadian citizens racists and misogynists, etc, etc., etc.
I’ve never supported the Conservative Party in my life. I have voted NDP all my life. This has nothing to do with pro-Con. It is pro human, and about upholding civil rights.
Have a look at what the organization standing up for our Charter rights has to say about invoking the Emergency Measures
https://ccla.org/major-cases-reports/covid-19/ccla-files-in-federal-court/
I voted for Trudeau in 2015. Have voted Liberal and NDP provincially for years. I am firmly pro-environment, pro-choice, pro-equality. I vehemently disagree with the invocation of the Emergencies Act. Perhaps give your fellow countrymen the benefit of the doubt before throwing labels on people.
And then there's Doug Ford.
Yup, The Dord.
Yes, but there can always be defections. People do leave cults and regain their moral bearings and sanity. I have faith about this.
One person I really wonder about is Tulsi Gabbard. She sure sounds like a recovered ex WEF cultist - but is she too good to be true?
It's a fairly mixed group politically. I voted Trudeau the 1st time around, O'Toole 2nd time (Trudeau was/is running up too much debt for my liking).
That being said, Trudeau being a petty tyrant is a view with pretty bipartisan support - you hear it everywhere from HuffPost to Bill Maher
https://www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/trudeau-dictator_b_6314494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i72czkSUsM
As for Ottawa, I can't help but notice you brush off people's concerns with mandates with "oh boo hoo", so allow me to return the favour about your streets being shut down for a few weeks: OH BOO HOO.
Thanks for the Huff Post link. That’s from 2015, but certainly a foreshadowing of what we are witnessing today.
What would they do in a "real" fascist state? Hold you without bail on a mischief charge and cut off your access to banking so you could't mount a criminal defense?
https://ccla.org/major-cases-reports/covid-19/ccla-files-in-federal-court/
Love this. Thank you for your levity Abner :)
I am heartbroken.