The left’s intolerance for people who hold different views than theirs, and their marginalization of such people expresses their total embrace of segregation. But even further, their frenzied attacks on people expressing different views, with the clear intent to cause them as much suffering as possible is the very heart of the lynch mobs of 70+ years ago.
It was only a few years ago where my friends and I would have laughed and ignored those people as being on the wrong side of normal, but having no animus against them. Now we see that we made a big mistake... they were always dangerous in their commitment to normalize their crazy.
It makes me sad because of the lesson of tolerance needs to be rewritten. I think culture always matters and it should have at least some gray area boundaries of acceptability. Go ahead and be weird and celebrate it! I will celebrate it with you! But get aggressive to force the weird as normal... going so far to persecute what is normal... and I will fight you to prevent it.
As someone who has been cancelled despite not being well known, I definitely understand this conversation. I prefer to take the view that it's a real thing but the line is blurry on what the difference is between being cancelled and holding people accountable.
Good interview, but I noticed that Burgis instrumentalizes dialogue. For instance, in the story about going on Rogan and the conversation Burgis had later in an Atlanta bar, it's all about him (Burgis) having the opportunity to change someone else's ideas. He's right that he has a better chance to change someone's mind through conversation than through shaming and censorship, of course. But it would be nice if he were open to the possibility that his own ideas could be changed, too. My guess is that a conversation for the sake of connecting and understanding has the best chance of coming up with a real solution - and probably both sides will 'move' in the process. He's going in the right direction, but that kind of "of course, the other side [i.e. the American right] is totally wrong" condescension is still there. I liked that he mentions how mixed, jumbled, and inconsistent most non-political peoples' views are but seems to miss that this is often true of highly political types, too.
Tara, since I don't know much about you, will you please describe what it is that makes you a "Person on the Left"? I look forward to hearing your possible reply. Thanks!
“Do not proffer sympathy to the mentally ill; it is a bottomless pit. Tell them firmly, “I am not paid to listen to this drivel — you are a terminal fool!” Otherwise, they make you as crazy as they are.” ― William S. Burroughs
We need to get to a place where the bulk of people can appreciate issues from both a left and right wing perspective. It's a fundamental hurdle to achieve but necessary for adults. Children learn to tie their shoe laces and speak a language, surely we can stop the self segregation. When I hear so called lefties describe 'their' issues, they seem so unaware of general realities. The Left of yesteryear including hippies and war vets etc. are now considered the Right if we look to the Freedom convoy. Left and Right are artificial constructs in a way, adults need to look at the big picture, at the social engineers who are combining big corporate power with the self destructive religious fervour of the social justice movement.
"The expectation that all you have to do is click a button and the machine will do exactly what it’s told without asking anything of you in return is only a historically-unprecedented luxury of so many suburban idlers who have never done anything without the help of their smartphones, without realizing that the latter exist only due to the geological miracle of fossil fuels....
Leftoidism is the underlying technological rationalization demanding obedience and the repression of natural drives on a level of abstraction so pure as to make no presuppositions regarding the existence of any of its human leftoid slaves."
Other than elites, no one is being dishonest about their motives. Both the right and left wing truly believe their policies are better for the common man. “better” is influenced by what is valued from various perspectives
Great show, Tara... I'm about to release my book on my story. I'd love to come on your show! Google me: Guy Earle: I got railroaded. My book: Cancelled: The Death of Stand-up is coming out this spring/summer; I'd love to wrap about it and the state of freedom. The status of society can be gleaned by looking at our comedians... as I said (and have been quoted erroneously since): Stand-Up Comedy is the Canary n the Coalmine for Free speech.
The left’s intolerance for people who hold different views than theirs, and their marginalization of such people expresses their total embrace of segregation. But even further, their frenzied attacks on people expressing different views, with the clear intent to cause them as much suffering as possible is the very heart of the lynch mobs of 70+ years ago.
It was only a few years ago where my friends and I would have laughed and ignored those people as being on the wrong side of normal, but having no animus against them. Now we see that we made a big mistake... they were always dangerous in their commitment to normalize their crazy.
It makes me sad because of the lesson of tolerance needs to be rewritten. I think culture always matters and it should have at least some gray area boundaries of acceptability. Go ahead and be weird and celebrate it! I will celebrate it with you! But get aggressive to force the weird as normal... going so far to persecute what is normal... and I will fight you to prevent it.
It’s amusing to watch the left eat itself. I have no sympathy watching a movement slowly self destruct after the misery it has caused.
As someone who has been cancelled despite not being well known, I definitely understand this conversation. I prefer to take the view that it's a real thing but the line is blurry on what the difference is between being cancelled and holding people accountable.
Good interview, but I noticed that Burgis instrumentalizes dialogue. For instance, in the story about going on Rogan and the conversation Burgis had later in an Atlanta bar, it's all about him (Burgis) having the opportunity to change someone else's ideas. He's right that he has a better chance to change someone's mind through conversation than through shaming and censorship, of course. But it would be nice if he were open to the possibility that his own ideas could be changed, too. My guess is that a conversation for the sake of connecting and understanding has the best chance of coming up with a real solution - and probably both sides will 'move' in the process. He's going in the right direction, but that kind of "of course, the other side [i.e. the American right] is totally wrong" condescension is still there. I liked that he mentions how mixed, jumbled, and inconsistent most non-political peoples' views are but seems to miss that this is often true of highly political types, too.
Tara, since I don't know much about you, will you please describe what it is that makes you a "Person on the Left"? I look forward to hearing your possible reply. Thanks!
“Do not proffer sympathy to the mentally ill; it is a bottomless pit. Tell them firmly, “I am not paid to listen to this drivel — you are a terminal fool!” Otherwise, they make you as crazy as they are.” ― William S. Burroughs
We need to get to a place where the bulk of people can appreciate issues from both a left and right wing perspective. It's a fundamental hurdle to achieve but necessary for adults. Children learn to tie their shoe laces and speak a language, surely we can stop the self segregation. When I hear so called lefties describe 'their' issues, they seem so unaware of general realities. The Left of yesteryear including hippies and war vets etc. are now considered the Right if we look to the Freedom convoy. Left and Right are artificial constructs in a way, adults need to look at the big picture, at the social engineers who are combining big corporate power with the self destructive religious fervour of the social justice movement.
"The expectation that all you have to do is click a button and the machine will do exactly what it’s told without asking anything of you in return is only a historically-unprecedented luxury of so many suburban idlers who have never done anything without the help of their smartphones, without realizing that the latter exist only due to the geological miracle of fossil fuels....
Leftoidism is the underlying technological rationalization demanding obedience and the repression of natural drives on a level of abstraction so pure as to make no presuppositions regarding the existence of any of its human leftoid slaves."
C.A. Haag
There is no chance I would visit Ruerson University for any reason.
After seeing how quickly wokeism has spread I’m terrified it is contagious
Ryan Long may be the funniest Canadian comedian since Norm Macdonald (RIP)
Other than elites, no one is being dishonest about their motives. Both the right and left wing truly believe their policies are better for the common man. “better” is influenced by what is valued from various perspectives
Great show, Tara... I'm about to release my book on my story. I'd love to come on your show! Google me: Guy Earle: I got railroaded. My book: Cancelled: The Death of Stand-up is coming out this spring/summer; I'd love to wrap about it and the state of freedom. The status of society can be gleaned by looking at our comedians... as I said (and have been quoted erroneously since): Stand-Up Comedy is the Canary n the Coalmine for Free speech.