A good excerpt to share. I often feel that identity politics in particular is quite racist itself. We are all members of the human race, full stop right there. What is right, wrong, fair or just is simply that for all of us.
We're at a weird moment in discourse, where the majority of people agree that the opposite of racism is colourblindness, but we're inundated with woke agitprop about how no, that's wrong, colourblindness IS racism.
It's important to remember that while the woke may control most or even all the news, social media, academic discourse, and pop culture that we're all exposed to, that still doesn't change the fact that their identarian worldview remains quite unpopular at the grassroots level.
People are, by and large, far more tolerant and share far more common ground than Twitter and cable news would have you believe.
Well stated. I don't think it's fair for the purveyors of actual tribalism, or those who claim to be against it like the author of the article, to keep repeating the "both the left and the right" mantra as though recognizing that racialist 2+2=5 claims are wrong is "just as bad." This weird need to pretend that reality needs to compromise with those who wage war with it, and arrive at some kind of middle ground where we don't offend anyone by saying that 2+2 is actually 4. Wokeist racialism is a political movement coming from a specific political group, and is just plain wrong. Most of us know it, and none of us should apologize for saying so.
Humans are both individual and tribal. It’s how we evolved over eons. Our “tribes” are now the people who share our language, or culture, or religion, or skin colour, or political affiliation, or professional sports team, etc., etc. Like it or not this is a feature of our humanity, and it’s normal, given how we evolved. Our task is to recognize this in ourselves and try to mitigate the tendency to demonize “the other”. This is hard and never ending work. Identity politics not only encourages tribalism, but it encourages resentment and negativity by dividing identity groups into victims and villains. This is very dangerous and destructive.
Hey Claude! We’re not that far apart in our thinking, but it’s impossible to go into it in depth in a forum like this.
Humans evolved as social animals. We have a deep and innate need for social connection and belonging. This goes back tens (and perhaps hundreds) of thousands of years, long before “civilization”.
For lack of a better word, we can call groups of connected humans “tribes”, but we could call them clans or communities or societies, etc.
As we all know from growing up in families (a genetically connected human group), intra-group dynamics can be difficult and complicated. And inter-group dynamics can be even more so, especially when resources are scarce and groups have to compete for them.
Now introduce modern civilization, with all it’s diversity and complexity, and it’s not difficult to see why we all struggle so much to understand each other and get along. It takes a huge amount of work and good will to keep things moving forward in a positive direction.
"I Will Stand by You" this speaks to what I believe and live every day. I'm constantly challenging the notion that I am defined by the color of my skin. I'm much more complicated than the hue of my skin color. I'm in agreement that it's insulting to be defined in such a way, unfortunately so many Black Americans have bought into this silly notion. I find it as ridiculous as saying, "All Black people need to buy and wear Nike shoes only", who could be this ignorant? But here we are.
Identity erases the individual and subsumes them into collective categories. The battleground is not the left or right, but the collective versus the collaborative. I care about your intellect not your identity, your reason not your race, your character not your colour, your genius not your genitals. There is only one race, the human race of individuals, and character, not characteristics define a human being.
There is no natural "Black community" or "White community" unless we reduce us all to our skin colour as the dominant definition of our "self". Every single family shows these broad arcs to be a preposterous premise, because families are comprised of individuals, and family members will most assuredly be distinguishable from one another by dozens of personal characteristics. We all know this through lived experience. The current leftist/liberal dominance in social policy making in the West is turning this race obsession into an authoritarian mandate. It runs counter to what feels right for most of us.
The World Economic Forum views all humans and races as disposable cogs in their machine. Disease vectors and carbon emitters who should be eliminated. Canada and the CBC are amongst the most craven bootlickers to the regime.
Exactly. She has it down! The ideology of Identity Groups is inherently divisive and perpetuates the problem. Ideas and personalty do not have a color! In what universe is that even logical. The best way to confront racism is to reject the concept. Humanity is one. Those that deem themselves oppressed, see everyone that challenges their ideology as an oppressor. Where do you think that leads?
I agree with her. And it can all be traced back to post-modernist thought. They reintroduced the notions of "race, gender and identity". I learned that from a book entitled: "Cynical Theories: how activist scholarship made everything about race ,gender and identity."
One of Don't Look Up’s great moments comes on the set of a morning-style TV show when an exasperated Leonardo DiCaprio finally blurts out: “Why does everything have to be so clever or likeable? Sometimes we just need to be able to say things to each other.” From Chris Hatch in the National Observer
It’s good to see people leave environments like CBC for freer pastures. However, I suspect the folks at CBC see the one who departs as the one with a problem, not themselves.
So, now you are free, to a degree, from the Woke shackles, at least related to CBC; but odds are you still carry the shackles of Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and the like. Those environments will continue as major contributors to Woke 2022, and as long as you drag them with you, you will never know true freedom!
If you really want to transend racism, you might encourage black people to quit killing each other like flies. 2.3% of the population (males between 15 and 39) responsible for over 50% of the homicides.
Next, embrace meritocracy. Earn your way like every other group that has come from humble beginnings. Realize that the Leftwaffe progressives think of you as their pathetic pets.
I wish the author would have included whatever portion of the conversation justified her introducing this as a problem of both "the left and the right." Everything described in the conversation is a product of the wokeist movement. Why do we need to pretend it's everyone's fault?
A good excerpt to share. I often feel that identity politics in particular is quite racist itself. We are all members of the human race, full stop right there. What is right, wrong, fair or just is simply that for all of us.
We're at a weird moment in discourse, where the majority of people agree that the opposite of racism is colourblindness, but we're inundated with woke agitprop about how no, that's wrong, colourblindness IS racism.
It's important to remember that while the woke may control most or even all the news, social media, academic discourse, and pop culture that we're all exposed to, that still doesn't change the fact that their identarian worldview remains quite unpopular at the grassroots level.
People are, by and large, far more tolerant and share far more common ground than Twitter and cable news would have you believe.
Well stated. I don't think it's fair for the purveyors of actual tribalism, or those who claim to be against it like the author of the article, to keep repeating the "both the left and the right" mantra as though recognizing that racialist 2+2=5 claims are wrong is "just as bad." This weird need to pretend that reality needs to compromise with those who wage war with it, and arrive at some kind of middle ground where we don't offend anyone by saying that 2+2 is actually 4. Wokeist racialism is a political movement coming from a specific political group, and is just plain wrong. Most of us know it, and none of us should apologize for saying so.
Humans are both individual and tribal. It’s how we evolved over eons. Our “tribes” are now the people who share our language, or culture, or religion, or skin colour, or political affiliation, or professional sports team, etc., etc. Like it or not this is a feature of our humanity, and it’s normal, given how we evolved. Our task is to recognize this in ourselves and try to mitigate the tendency to demonize “the other”. This is hard and never ending work. Identity politics not only encourages tribalism, but it encourages resentment and negativity by dividing identity groups into victims and villains. This is very dangerous and destructive.
I believe in love your neighbour unless they cheer for the Flames, Canucks, or Jets.
Haha!! Yes, having a sense of humour about these can go a long way toward communicating effectively and bringing people together. Go Flames! 😃
Amen!
Hey Claude! We’re not that far apart in our thinking, but it’s impossible to go into it in depth in a forum like this.
Humans evolved as social animals. We have a deep and innate need for social connection and belonging. This goes back tens (and perhaps hundreds) of thousands of years, long before “civilization”.
For lack of a better word, we can call groups of connected humans “tribes”, but we could call them clans or communities or societies, etc.
As we all know from growing up in families (a genetically connected human group), intra-group dynamics can be difficult and complicated. And inter-group dynamics can be even more so, especially when resources are scarce and groups have to compete for them.
Now introduce modern civilization, with all it’s diversity and complexity, and it’s not difficult to see why we all struggle so much to understand each other and get along. It takes a huge amount of work and good will to keep things moving forward in a positive direction.
"I Will Stand by You" this speaks to what I believe and live every day. I'm constantly challenging the notion that I am defined by the color of my skin. I'm much more complicated than the hue of my skin color. I'm in agreement that it's insulting to be defined in such a way, unfortunately so many Black Americans have bought into this silly notion. I find it as ridiculous as saying, "All Black people need to buy and wear Nike shoes only", who could be this ignorant? But here we are.
I'm humanity, and my GOD does not label me Black!
Identity erases the individual and subsumes them into collective categories. The battleground is not the left or right, but the collective versus the collaborative. I care about your intellect not your identity, your reason not your race, your character not your colour, your genius not your genitals. There is only one race, the human race of individuals, and character, not characteristics define a human being.
There is no natural "Black community" or "White community" unless we reduce us all to our skin colour as the dominant definition of our "self". Every single family shows these broad arcs to be a preposterous premise, because families are comprised of individuals, and family members will most assuredly be distinguishable from one another by dozens of personal characteristics. We all know this through lived experience. The current leftist/liberal dominance in social policy making in the West is turning this race obsession into an authoritarian mandate. It runs counter to what feels right for most of us.
The World Economic Forum views all humans and races as disposable cogs in their machine. Disease vectors and carbon emitters who should be eliminated. Canada and the CBC are amongst the most craven bootlickers to the regime.
I hear there's a sale on tiki torches over at Canadian Tire. Better go get yours - these prices won't last!
there we go , didn't take long
Exactly. She has it down! The ideology of Identity Groups is inherently divisive and perpetuates the problem. Ideas and personalty do not have a color! In what universe is that even logical. The best way to confront racism is to reject the concept. Humanity is one. Those that deem themselves oppressed, see everyone that challenges their ideology as an oppressor. Where do you think that leads?
I agree with her. And it can all be traced back to post-modernist thought. They reintroduced the notions of "race, gender and identity". I learned that from a book entitled: "Cynical Theories: how activist scholarship made everything about race ,gender and identity."
One of Don't Look Up’s great moments comes on the set of a morning-style TV show when an exasperated Leonardo DiCaprio finally blurts out: “Why does everything have to be so clever or likeable? Sometimes we just need to be able to say things to each other.” From Chris Hatch in the National Observer
It’s good to see people leave environments like CBC for freer pastures. However, I suspect the folks at CBC see the one who departs as the one with a problem, not themselves.
So, now you are free, to a degree, from the Woke shackles, at least related to CBC; but odds are you still carry the shackles of Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and the like. Those environments will continue as major contributors to Woke 2022, and as long as you drag them with you, you will never know true freedom!
The ball is still in your court.
it is simple judge people as individuals race religion and country of origin should not enter the calculus
If you really want to transend racism, you might encourage black people to quit killing each other like flies. 2.3% of the population (males between 15 and 39) responsible for over 50% of the homicides.
Next, embrace meritocracy. Earn your way like every other group that has come from humble beginnings. Realize that the Leftwaffe progressives think of you as their pathetic pets.
please tell me , i'm retarded , your words
I really liked your guest’s use of the word “politics”, which I inferred to mean the orderly relations among people through discussion.
Great interview of this topic especially today given that we Americans are observing Martin Luther King Day thanks 🙏
I wish the author would have included whatever portion of the conversation justified her introducing this as a problem of both "the left and the right." Everything described in the conversation is a product of the wokeist movement. Why do we need to pretend it's everyone's fault?