The "people who aren't afraid to" give their opinions are always the ones who preface what next comes out of their mouths with "btw ... I'm left of centre". Why is that? Doesn't that perpetuate the idea that if you're "conservative" you're not worth listening to?
Progressive attitudes towards free speech were pretty well summed up in the Dune books:
“When I am Weaker than you, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; When I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom because that is according to my principles.”
FIRE has been awesome in their work on academic free speech issues. I like that they are expanding to include wider social instances (in some sense, filling the void that has been left by the ACLU on defending free speech) while maintaining their focus on the single issue of free speech. I also applaud Greg Lukianoff's embrace of both sides of the political spectrum when it comes to the day to day working environment for FIRE. All in all, an inspiring conversation!
Free speech lets us know where society has problems. This is a pivotal point. When free speech is banned or when there is lack of debate and lack of transparency we know that society is being kept from big issues - thus contributing to collective illusion. When many cultures are living and working together there is difficulty in navigating idioms. How else are we to understand each other if free speech is banned?
Who's going to break the news to Tara that the Academy and its intellectuals are morally bankrupt lickspittles with nothing to offer but chaos and destruction?
Sounds like the chickens have come home to roost. Leftwaffe progressives got everything thing they wanted, then it not only turned to shit, but turned on them. The Leftwaffe control the Universities, the Legal System, the military (Colonel and above) Intelegence services, the media, social media, finance, and all major cities.
And over half the voting population voted for this.
There is no turning this back, you don't have the numbers nor the finances.
This man's speech is incoherent and often difficult to follow. He uses "like" and other childish words as if he was an ignorant "valley girl", which I would easily mistake him for had I not known he is a university graduate and likely has a penis.
Nevertheless, I suspect that somewhere within his incoherent ramblings are some words of truth and insight. My difficulty is that I find his speech so annoying that I can't continue reading the transcript without frequently cringing. It is so bad that I don't ever want to listen to him talk out loud. Perhaps someone more tolerant than I could edit this abortion of an interview so I can read what he is trying to say.
After 66 orbits around the sun, I seem to have a different outlook on the topic than those folks with half as many trips or fewer. So maybe it's not a left/right thing but more of an expression of experience.
Words and images might make you feel sad, joyous, angry or more but at the end of the day they can't make you whole or split you in two. Only actions can do that. In other words, control your emotions fellas, they don't control you.
My 3 tenets of life - developed by me while seated at a bar circa 2003 - are:
1. Change happens in an instant, both good change and bad. So celebrate the good and grieve the bad, but don't be consumed by it.
2. A lot depends on luck, which ironically is the only one of the three tenets that you have any influence over. For example you can prepare for the times you might get lucky, so you will be ready and that will most certainly improve the outcome.
3. There will always be people in the world better off and worse off than you. And number 3 loops back to number 1. Think about it, if you were actually the poorest person in the world, once the media found out about it, you no longer would be.
Hi Jerry: I too, am old, but not dead yet. Unless people like the interviewee learn to express themselves succinctly and coherently, very few people should consider them relevant. I flunked people in university who failed to express themselves in coherent English. It was not up to me to teach such basic skills. No sane employer would hire such people if they knew how they expressed themselves.
Such a fascinating discussion. I'm glad to hear that FIRE is expanding beyond the educational context. It's too bad that this is necessary. But if we needed one, they're a good place to start.
Mass formation also known as mob or crowd psychology — is the study of how individual behavior is influenced by a large group of people. This branch of social psychology has been studied by Sigmund Freud, Floyd Allport, Gustave Le Bon, and many others.
"...it is survival to preserve this new social bond created by fighting together to defeat the Object of their collective anxiety and frustration. By obeying the strategy, people can go from a very negative, isolated state to the polar opposite — a state of maximum connected-ness, creating mental intoxication that makes the masses willing to go with anything even if immoral or illogical." Dina Osman, CBAP, CAPM
if it is fluoride , i'm lucky been drinking well water funny thing is bottled water companies get their water close by . Can' be fluoride on it's own doing this . public edumacation is a problem
I look forward to all of your interviews. Congratulations on continuing to build momentum. The conversations are so good I find them too short at 30 minutes! As I have spent more and more time listening to podcasts I really enjoy the longer conversations and find it possible to do so now. I even listened recently to a three-hour conversation between Lawrence Krauss and Michael shellenberger! So if you ever wondered about going longer I would encourage it! Keep up the good work.
The "people who aren't afraid to" give their opinions are always the ones who preface what next comes out of their mouths with "btw ... I'm left of centre". Why is that? Doesn't that perpetuate the idea that if you're "conservative" you're not worth listening to?
Idiom: "talk out of both sides of (one's) mouth."
To try to maintain contradictory positions or beliefs in an attempt to please the most people.
means they are afraid to speak the truth and own it
Progressive attitudes towards free speech were pretty well summed up in the Dune books:
“When I am Weaker than you, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; When I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom because that is according to my principles.”
FIRE has been awesome in their work on academic free speech issues. I like that they are expanding to include wider social instances (in some sense, filling the void that has been left by the ACLU on defending free speech) while maintaining their focus on the single issue of free speech. I also applaud Greg Lukianoff's embrace of both sides of the political spectrum when it comes to the day to day working environment for FIRE. All in all, an inspiring conversation!
Free speech lets us know where society has problems. This is a pivotal point. When free speech is banned or when there is lack of debate and lack of transparency we know that society is being kept from big issues - thus contributing to collective illusion. When many cultures are living and working together there is difficulty in navigating idioms. How else are we to understand each other if free speech is banned?
Bernard Shaw :? been a while memory is fading
""The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place""
Who's going to break the news to Tara that the Academy and its intellectuals are morally bankrupt lickspittles with nothing to offer but chaos and destruction?
that is not fair at the start Tara said this""Speaking Freely
Why I resigned from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation "" I think she gets it , at least I hope so
Sounds like the chickens have come home to roost. Leftwaffe progressives got everything thing they wanted, then it not only turned to shit, but turned on them. The Leftwaffe control the Universities, the Legal System, the military (Colonel and above) Intelegence services, the media, social media, finance, and all major cities.
And over half the voting population voted for this.
There is no turning this back, you don't have the numbers nor the finances.
This man's speech is incoherent and often difficult to follow. He uses "like" and other childish words as if he was an ignorant "valley girl", which I would easily mistake him for had I not known he is a university graduate and likely has a penis.
Nevertheless, I suspect that somewhere within his incoherent ramblings are some words of truth and insight. My difficulty is that I find his speech so annoying that I can't continue reading the transcript without frequently cringing. It is so bad that I don't ever want to listen to him talk out loud. Perhaps someone more tolerant than I could edit this abortion of an interview so I can read what he is trying to say.
agree on the valley talk , sorry to say that is what is in today . See and hear it often makes me cringe , what can I say i'm old
After 66 orbits around the sun, I seem to have a different outlook on the topic than those folks with half as many trips or fewer. So maybe it's not a left/right thing but more of an expression of experience.
Words and images might make you feel sad, joyous, angry or more but at the end of the day they can't make you whole or split you in two. Only actions can do that. In other words, control your emotions fellas, they don't control you.
My 3 tenets of life - developed by me while seated at a bar circa 2003 - are:
1. Change happens in an instant, both good change and bad. So celebrate the good and grieve the bad, but don't be consumed by it.
2. A lot depends on luck, which ironically is the only one of the three tenets that you have any influence over. For example you can prepare for the times you might get lucky, so you will be ready and that will most certainly improve the outcome.
3. There will always be people in the world better off and worse off than you. And number 3 loops back to number 1. Think about it, if you were actually the poorest person in the world, once the media found out about it, you no longer would be.
Jordan Peterson-esk
Hi Jerry: I too, am old, but not dead yet. Unless people like the interviewee learn to express themselves succinctly and coherently, very few people should consider them relevant. I flunked people in university who failed to express themselves in coherent English. It was not up to me to teach such basic skills. No sane employer would hire such people if they knew how they expressed themselves.
Such a fascinating discussion. I'm glad to hear that FIRE is expanding beyond the educational context. It's too bad that this is necessary. But if we needed one, they're a good place to start.
my question is , what are they putting in the water ? all this stupidity cannot be a coinkydink
Mass formation also known as mob or crowd psychology — is the study of how individual behavior is influenced by a large group of people. This branch of social psychology has been studied by Sigmund Freud, Floyd Allport, Gustave Le Bon, and many others.
"...it is survival to preserve this new social bond created by fighting together to defeat the Object of their collective anxiety and frustration. By obeying the strategy, people can go from a very negative, isolated state to the polar opposite — a state of maximum connected-ness, creating mental intoxication that makes the masses willing to go with anything even if immoral or illogical." Dina Osman, CBAP, CAPM
They put fluoride in for one thing. Public education has been incredibly destructive it seems.
if it is fluoride , i'm lucky been drinking well water funny thing is bottled water companies get their water close by . Can' be fluoride on it's own doing this . public edumacation is a problem
I look forward to all of your interviews. Congratulations on continuing to build momentum. The conversations are so good I find them too short at 30 minutes! As I have spent more and more time listening to podcasts I really enjoy the longer conversations and find it possible to do so now. I even listened recently to a three-hour conversation between Lawrence Krauss and Michael shellenberger! So if you ever wondered about going longer I would encourage it! Keep up the good work.