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Bob's avatar

The "historically dominant groups" haven't been dominant for about 4 decades now. Anyone over 50 can see what's happened in Canadian and American society as far as "diversity efforts" go. Here in Canada if you walk into any office, school, bank, grocery store license renewal even the beer store you will see the effects. These are the effects at the local level. On the national stage we've seen the Liberals enforce DEI like ideology tests on everyone who runs for them. The schools the healthcare system the libraries the bureaucracies of universities and cities and towns. Who are they hiring and why? It's not hard to see and I would say it would not be hard for a lot of people left behind by identitarianism to become extremely bitter and resentful.

I thought this video on the impact some of this stuff is having on African male immigrants very eye opening but not suprising https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gui3fERiJUE

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polistra's avatar

It's better for society if universities fade out from their own idiocy. Not just the DEI stuff, but total irrrelevance to life and jobs. Reforming them is impossible and wouldn't last in any case. Students and parents have finally figured out that there are better ways of learning and preparing for jobs. Many colleges are cutting down departments or closing entirely. Natural justice.

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Yohanna's avatar

I agree that DEI is everywhere, not just at universities or in the field of education. I regularly read the “about us” area included on the websites of organizations, non profits and services to see whether or not I should offer my money or time to them. So many groups choose to make political statements even though it is totally unnecessary and comes off as virtue signalling. This week it was a national birding group that thought it was important to make the pledge to DEI. I let the business, that had forwarded me the donation request, know that I did not want to receive more emails from this birding group. I told the person that sent me the email that I would not be supporting an organization that is focussed more on social activism than on nature. It’s tiring to do the work but I’m determined not give my money or time to any group that promotes division and identity politics.

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IL's avatar

What Komi Frey and any other DIE worshipper fails to realise is that those “historically marginalized groups” are made of individuals with different views on DIE policies. In their heads we are faceless “oppressed” sheep who serve for stroking their egos.

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Jeremiah Devoe's avatar

Unfortunately, diversity of opinion is the one thing that advocates for diversity adamantly oppose. It's like your considered a racist just for questionings it. So, it's a non-starter in my opinion.

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Frank Lee's avatar

"They are statements where applicants are asked to describe the ways in which they have already — and plan to, in the future, promote this [particular] concept of diversity, equity, and inclusion."

I have the solution. And I don't think it requires much of anything other than the natural flow of business sense.

I reverse the questions to identify job candidates that are indoctrinated into this fealty to the ideology of wokeism, and I don't hire them. I know many CEOs like me that are taking the same approach because otherwise they end up hiring people that are toxic to the work culture.

This is the remedy as these kids and their parents start to recognize that attending these colleges and universities corrupted with this crap harms the economic prospects for the future of the graduating students.

Ideally if we are to kill this quickly, we would start a global movement of business to put everyone on notice that woke indoctrination will result in limited job offers in the private economy.

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David's avatar

Beware the linguistic manipulation. “Historically marginalized” is forever. Once a group has been labeled “historically marginalized” then they will always be “historically marginalized”. Divert 100% of resources, money, power to these groups and they will still be “historically marginalized”. If we are referring to present day people who are marginalized from society then we don’t need the “historical” modifier. The Critical Social Justice league has weaponized language and if terms like “historically marginalized” enter the law, or Uni governance then it will be nearly impossible to remove. The CSJ grift continues by adopting terms like this.

Someone needs to convince me that the CSJ approach to co-opting institutions and subverting power in favor of cultural Marxism is better than the classical liberal society’s approach of open debate, diversity of opinion, and incremental improvement. No one questioned the legitimacy of marginalized people by thinking they were a diversity hire under classic liberalism. This is because CSJ goals are aimed at taking institutional power and not actually improving equality. The marginalized groups are simply the cannon fodder used as a means to an end.

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Winkfield Twyman's avatar

If there are over 40 million Black Americans, there are over 40 million life stories, experiences and perspectives on anything under the sun, including Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) statements. Historical discrimination does not equal discrimination in the here and now. Life goes on. https://twyman.substack.com/p/48-ways-racial-life-is-better-compared

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Robert Labossiere's avatar

Margaret Atwood has just posted a substack piece on the French Revolution that captures where all this nonsense (un-sense?) is be-heading. Do we have to hope for a victory for The Donald as an antidote to the poison of DIE. Many Americans think so and they are not wrong.

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spiral8802's avatar

The short answer is yes.

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