I have thought for a few days about this, and now would like to respond.
I am actually going to pick on Jordon Peterson. Not because he is a part of the media, but rather because the example I am putting forward shows how “class permeates” the debate.
So Jordon is interviewing someone he characterized as being from the left. He expresses appreciation that this individual is willing to talk to him, as he correctly states that the Left generally is unwilling to dialogue with him. They then go into a debate about the virtues of Government Intervention both taking traditional positions of the right and the left with respect to Government interventions with respect to ending poverty. The debate very much reflects their class perspective.
Here is the thing, what does Government Intervention that actually works look like? Having spent a lot of time talking to people on the margins, they both miss the boat. A fundamental issue in a functioning society is the “Rule of Law”. In the bible, there is constant reference to “justice” as the very hills cry out for it. If you are poor, one of the most basic things you need is “contract enforcement”. If you agree to work for $20 / hr and someone turns up with $10 / hr what are you going to do? Go to the labour board? That will take several months and meanwhile how do you pay the rent? You have no real recourse. Similarly, if you are a small business going head to head with a Major Food Chain, and the food chain chooses not pay you, and is looking to steal your product at a very good price, what are you going to do? A court case that will bankrupt you and take several years.
Both the Right & the Left miss these issues. The media completely ignores them, while talking endlessly about “White Privilege” and DEI. They have no interest in reporting on basic issues what would make the plight of the poor better, because in their world these things simply don’t happen.
This is a fundamental issue of why many people don't trust the media. The Media simply doesn't even see basic issues that affect their every day life.
I believe that this comment on media missing issues misses the issue. If you look around, the media is talking about the poor all the time! In fact, victims of society are their favourite subject. We just need the media to tell the truth, as simple as that - or at least be aware of and transparent about their biases and conflicts of interest.
The poor are often legitimately victims, but that is only part of the story, as they would rather not be victims, and see no glory in victimhood. In the same way, trauma is real and does impact peoples lives in adverse ways. Most people who have been really traumatized avoid talking about their trauma.
That the Media, who have for the most part have lived lives of privilege want to claim victimhood for themselves does not mean that there are no real victims in this world. The real work is in empowering the "real victims" so that they are no longer victims.
This is why a true "Rule of Law" would help the poor the most, as they would no longer be victims, as justice would be possible. (The rich & the powerful, along with their legal teams would be constrained by the law) If the media were doing their job, this would be with in reach, because those who take advantage of the poor would be held in check by a media that exposed their behavior.
A recent Pew survey of journalists indicated that they're perfectly happy with their collapsing situation. They KNOW that peasants hate them, and they consider hatred by filthy peasants as a badge of honor.
It would indeed be refreshing to hear reporting of Trump reflect all sides of who he is and what he accomplished. Talk about how he has sacrificed so much to help the country he loves, how he ends wars, how he speaks the truth even if in a crude, boastful manner. The Trump derangement blinders must be removed so truly impartial and accurate reporting can be revived. The current state of the main stream media is tearing society apart.
Censorship is the biggest influence on my personal attitudes towards media at all levels. Government,big tech, academia, and even medicine/science censorship, prevent the spread of truthful discourse while they claim to be trying to prevent the spread of misinformation. This leads to our difficulty of determining what is truthful. More people will gravitate towards journalism and news regardless of ideology or politics as long as it is truthful. Until that happens, we will be mostly reading and paying for news that agree with our ideology or politics. What we really need in our lives is reading about truthful news and stories.
I was hoping this interview would bring some insight to the issue of trust in media, but there’s only so much meat on the bone, and Tara, you’ve picked this one dry.
Every word of this has already been hashed out many times before, for several years now. This focus on what the media are somehow missing, in their narrative and their business model, is almost suspicious in its myopia.
The media is not stupid. The issue here is not why they aren’t doing a better job, it’s why they are doing the job they’re doing. Navel-gazing journalists like Tara are starting to look like they’re just admiring their abs, turning the word ‘trust’ over and over in their hands like it’s some enigmatic relic. What is the motive behind these narratives? Why are the media pushing them? Why are they being made to push them? Journalists are supposed to provide new information so we civilians can assess the facts and make informed choices. This interview is like a bad rerun. Provide some real insight, please.
Isn't it a little ironic that once people apply the 'It's all bullshit' filter to the internet, it may lead to more old style building trust through more face to face assessment? Maybe the techies were right. The internet will bring people together.
I have thought for a few days about this, and now would like to respond.
I am actually going to pick on Jordon Peterson. Not because he is a part of the media, but rather because the example I am putting forward shows how “class permeates” the debate.
So Jordon is interviewing someone he characterized as being from the left. He expresses appreciation that this individual is willing to talk to him, as he correctly states that the Left generally is unwilling to dialogue with him. They then go into a debate about the virtues of Government Intervention both taking traditional positions of the right and the left with respect to Government interventions with respect to ending poverty. The debate very much reflects their class perspective.
Here is the thing, what does Government Intervention that actually works look like? Having spent a lot of time talking to people on the margins, they both miss the boat. A fundamental issue in a functioning society is the “Rule of Law”. In the bible, there is constant reference to “justice” as the very hills cry out for it. If you are poor, one of the most basic things you need is “contract enforcement”. If you agree to work for $20 / hr and someone turns up with $10 / hr what are you going to do? Go to the labour board? That will take several months and meanwhile how do you pay the rent? You have no real recourse. Similarly, if you are a small business going head to head with a Major Food Chain, and the food chain chooses not pay you, and is looking to steal your product at a very good price, what are you going to do? A court case that will bankrupt you and take several years.
Both the Right & the Left miss these issues. The media completely ignores them, while talking endlessly about “White Privilege” and DEI. They have no interest in reporting on basic issues what would make the plight of the poor better, because in their world these things simply don’t happen.
This is a fundamental issue of why many people don't trust the media. The Media simply doesn't even see basic issues that affect their every day life.
I believe that this comment on media missing issues misses the issue. If you look around, the media is talking about the poor all the time! In fact, victims of society are their favourite subject. We just need the media to tell the truth, as simple as that - or at least be aware of and transparent about their biases and conflicts of interest.
The poor are often legitimately victims, but that is only part of the story, as they would rather not be victims, and see no glory in victimhood. In the same way, trauma is real and does impact peoples lives in adverse ways. Most people who have been really traumatized avoid talking about their trauma.
That the Media, who have for the most part have lived lives of privilege want to claim victimhood for themselves does not mean that there are no real victims in this world. The real work is in empowering the "real victims" so that they are no longer victims.
This is why a true "Rule of Law" would help the poor the most, as they would no longer be victims, as justice would be possible. (The rich & the powerful, along with their legal teams would be constrained by the law) If the media were doing their job, this would be with in reach, because those who take advantage of the poor would be held in check by a media that exposed their behavior.
A recent Pew survey of journalists indicated that they're perfectly happy with their collapsing situation. They KNOW that peasants hate them, and they consider hatred by filthy peasants as a badge of honor.
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2022/06/14/journalists-and-the-public-differ-on-how-journalists-are-doing-how-connected-they-are/
They think of themselves as the whores with a heart of gold.
It would indeed be refreshing to hear reporting of Trump reflect all sides of who he is and what he accomplished. Talk about how he has sacrificed so much to help the country he loves, how he ends wars, how he speaks the truth even if in a crude, boastful manner. The Trump derangement blinders must be removed so truly impartial and accurate reporting can be revived. The current state of the main stream media is tearing society apart.
Censorship is the biggest influence on my personal attitudes towards media at all levels. Government,big tech, academia, and even medicine/science censorship, prevent the spread of truthful discourse while they claim to be trying to prevent the spread of misinformation. This leads to our difficulty of determining what is truthful. More people will gravitate towards journalism and news regardless of ideology or politics as long as it is truthful. Until that happens, we will be mostly reading and paying for news that agree with our ideology or politics. What we really need in our lives is reading about truthful news and stories.
I was hoping this interview would bring some insight to the issue of trust in media, but there’s only so much meat on the bone, and Tara, you’ve picked this one dry.
Every word of this has already been hashed out many times before, for several years now. This focus on what the media are somehow missing, in their narrative and their business model, is almost suspicious in its myopia.
The media is not stupid. The issue here is not why they aren’t doing a better job, it’s why they are doing the job they’re doing. Navel-gazing journalists like Tara are starting to look like they’re just admiring their abs, turning the word ‘trust’ over and over in their hands like it’s some enigmatic relic. What is the motive behind these narratives? Why are the media pushing them? Why are they being made to push them? Journalists are supposed to provide new information so we civilians can assess the facts and make informed choices. This interview is like a bad rerun. Provide some real insight, please.
Isn't it a little ironic that once people apply the 'It's all bullshit' filter to the internet, it may lead to more old style building trust through more face to face assessment? Maybe the techies were right. The internet will bring people together.