The Korean example was about a people who came together quite effectively to use a tool which had utility in dealing with the early crisis. Not about people who followed orders to stay home, stay away from each other, take pay for nothing, etc. (the Canadian example.)
The Korean example was about a people who came together quite effectively to use a tool which had utility in dealing with the early crisis. Not about people who followed orders to stay home, stay away from each other, take pay for nothing, etc. (the Canadian example.)
I believe his point was that we are, in Canada, too invested in talking about things and not invested enough in rolling up our sleeves and _doing something together_ to actually deal with things. So we had to stay alone in our little 'bubbles' because, frankly, there was not a good option for rolling up our sleeves to work together.
I'm from Winnipeg, and when the flood comes, we don't 'talk about' it. We get together, fill sandbags, pile sandbags, and repeat as fast as bloody possible.
That is what is missing from Canada right now. A dedication to pragmatism and trust in our collective power. Trust in our neighbours, in our institutions, and in our ability to get the job done (together.)
Lee, it's not that Canadians are missing trust, it is that we have lost trust in our institutions. Our universities are full of privileged, me-first snowflakes who need safe spaces and demand "free" education. Our government, if we don't agree with its every policy, calls us racists and misogynists. We're told we have a world class healthcare system, but we have 18-month waiting lists and can't handle a crisis when even a small one comes along. And to adapt and manage the crisis, we go $1T in debt. No, we're not MISSING trust; we've LOST trust. And justifiably so.
I hear you, Tom. The institutions we used to trust have themselves lost their way, and so have lost our trust. Perhaps soon they will also lose our funding, we shall see.
If I understand you, those were the very institutions meant to ‘knit us together.’ The containers of trust, the shapers of action. They are failing at both of these jobs, and we are left without either the place to gather or the mobilizing mechanisms we are used to.
I feel compelled towards forming new trust bonds, albeit imperfectly at first, through new institutions. Likewise, new modes for action, again imperfect at the outset, to replace the ones I believe we have lost.
Tara is providing an example, the Truckers another, and there are more. Ways we can gather outside the old containers, and take actions without them.
The more of us that shift outside the standard modes of assembly and action, the quicker the change. At least, that’s what my gut tells me.
Well-said, Jewel, and an excellent point made about the coming together of people in the truckers’ protest against formidable odds. It reflected a dedication to and pulling together around a common cause that was (and is) truly remarkable.
I do get Lee’s point also, though, that there was absolutely no direction or inspiration coming from the governments on how we could pull together as a society, just hollow, superficial words. In fact, as we know, just the opposite happened, which was a deliberate and strategic decision to divide society in order to serve political purposes. The damaging consequences of that decision, on an individual and collective level, will linger for decades.
The flood is an extreme example, absolutely. Still, the treatment of the unvaccinated isn't that far removed as it represented the opening of floodgates which previously sought to hold back ill treatment of minorities (ACTUAL ill-treatment, not imagined.)
Yes, indeed, to me the Trucker's Convoy was like a group coming together to deal with an actual problem. And they got hammered for stepping up to do what was obviously the right thing (albeit not entirely in the right way, IMHO, 'cause we should not block path's to commercial success, ever.)
Don't. Give. Up. Keep on trucking towards actually solving problems, real problems, in the best possible ways. Like the Koreans used technology (together) to battle a problem. We can do similar things.
You know there are reasons they try to divide us, and it isn't to do what is best for us. We resist, and work together, and set a different tone for the Governments to follow.
Right now, they mostly follow Twitter. It isn't that hard to unseat Twitter if we work together.
Mmmm... but did he really say that?
The Korean example was about a people who came together quite effectively to use a tool which had utility in dealing with the early crisis. Not about people who followed orders to stay home, stay away from each other, take pay for nothing, etc. (the Canadian example.)
I believe his point was that we are, in Canada, too invested in talking about things and not invested enough in rolling up our sleeves and _doing something together_ to actually deal with things. So we had to stay alone in our little 'bubbles' because, frankly, there was not a good option for rolling up our sleeves to work together.
I'm from Winnipeg, and when the flood comes, we don't 'talk about' it. We get together, fill sandbags, pile sandbags, and repeat as fast as bloody possible.
That is what is missing from Canada right now. A dedication to pragmatism and trust in our collective power. Trust in our neighbours, in our institutions, and in our ability to get the job done (together.)
Lee, it's not that Canadians are missing trust, it is that we have lost trust in our institutions. Our universities are full of privileged, me-first snowflakes who need safe spaces and demand "free" education. Our government, if we don't agree with its every policy, calls us racists and misogynists. We're told we have a world class healthcare system, but we have 18-month waiting lists and can't handle a crisis when even a small one comes along. And to adapt and manage the crisis, we go $1T in debt. No, we're not MISSING trust; we've LOST trust. And justifiably so.
I hear you, Tom. The institutions we used to trust have themselves lost their way, and so have lost our trust. Perhaps soon they will also lose our funding, we shall see.
If I understand you, those were the very institutions meant to ‘knit us together.’ The containers of trust, the shapers of action. They are failing at both of these jobs, and we are left without either the place to gather or the mobilizing mechanisms we are used to.
I feel compelled towards forming new trust bonds, albeit imperfectly at first, through new institutions. Likewise, new modes for action, again imperfect at the outset, to replace the ones I believe we have lost.
Tara is providing an example, the Truckers another, and there are more. Ways we can gather outside the old containers, and take actions without them.
The more of us that shift outside the standard modes of assembly and action, the quicker the change. At least, that’s what my gut tells me.
Well-said, Jewel, and an excellent point made about the coming together of people in the truckers’ protest against formidable odds. It reflected a dedication to and pulling together around a common cause that was (and is) truly remarkable.
I do get Lee’s point also, though, that there was absolutely no direction or inspiration coming from the governments on how we could pull together as a society, just hollow, superficial words. In fact, as we know, just the opposite happened, which was a deliberate and strategic decision to divide society in order to serve political purposes. The damaging consequences of that decision, on an individual and collective level, will linger for decades.
The flood is an extreme example, absolutely. Still, the treatment of the unvaccinated isn't that far removed as it represented the opening of floodgates which previously sought to hold back ill treatment of minorities (ACTUAL ill-treatment, not imagined.)
Yes, indeed, to me the Trucker's Convoy was like a group coming together to deal with an actual problem. And they got hammered for stepping up to do what was obviously the right thing (albeit not entirely in the right way, IMHO, 'cause we should not block path's to commercial success, ever.)
Don't. Give. Up. Keep on trucking towards actually solving problems, real problems, in the best possible ways. Like the Koreans used technology (together) to battle a problem. We can do similar things.
You know there are reasons they try to divide us, and it isn't to do what is best for us. We resist, and work together, and set a different tone for the Governments to follow.
Right now, they mostly follow Twitter. It isn't that hard to unseat Twitter if we work together.
Moi aussi. lol. How about we try some haiku...