I broke down and watched a ROMCOM with my wife last night. It was released in 2018. We both agreed that it would not be made the same today, and that in a few short years the feminists have seemed to advance their war on traditional gender relationships and succeeded in blowing it to smithereens.
I have two sons in their late 20s and early 30s. They are educated, good looking, caring and thoughtful. They both have good jobs. They both had girlfriends in high school. One had a relationship in college. But today both are single and not dating. They frankly see the female dating pool as having been infected with some type of mental disorder. They are completely unsure of gender norms and relationships rules. They see females as being unreasonable in their expectations and have just decided to check out and hang with their male friends instead.
This is not good. I don't know what the solution is, but something has to change.
I have a son in college. He already has this view "They frankly see the female dating pool as having been infected with some type of mental disorder." Early bloomer I guess or just it all happened at the same time to all North American women about a decade ago.
I am SO happy I wasn't born in this century. OMG. And, if they "enjoy" a longer life, they have to put up with this crap for longer. Noooooop.
Hey Penny: Apparently you aren't familiar with current 3rd/4th-wave gender feminism. I may not have called it a mental disorder but it is deeply, deeply confused, misandrist, and utterly unmoored to biological reality. It's not "misogyny" to point that out.
I went to college in the 90s (thank God) but the beginning of these attitudes from women about “dating like the guys do” was already creeping in. Only I observed this: none of the women were happy when they were hooking up. They were all looking for someone. They would sit around the apartment and wait for the guys to call them blame the guys when they didn’t. I’m far from perfect but I thought it was stupid and completely reactionary to what the men were doing. It made no sense. Also the “I hate men” narrative is so corrosive because it teaches women to vilify a guy’s every move and takes away their own agency.
The most mature and successful women I knew never participated in hookup culture and found stable and loving partners. But this was considered prudish behavior or that the young women were religious.
I’ve worked for many years now and definitely saw my share of piggish behavior from men, but I’ve also seen the same from women.
We don't teach it. It is their world. It took me a long time to realize it. I don't even understand it. What do I know about college women in the year 2021????? You missed the point. These "creeps" don't seem to WANT to "date" anyone's daughter. And I am not surprised, even though I can only guess at the reality of it all.
Pull out the "misogyny" card again. That is always good for a laugh. At you.
re: mental disorder. Perfect description. It's not "misogyny" when it's a fact. I'm twice-divorced, with two sons near thirty. Neither has a girlfriend, and believe me, despite the best efforts of my married friends to "fix me up," I'd sooner sleep with a rattlesnake. It's simply too dangerous for a man - young or old - to "date" these days. If some casual sex partner decides ten years later that she now remembers the encounter as regretful, you get your rump hauled into court for The Inquisition. And then there's the prodigious divorce-threat to your finances. No thanks. I'm too old to sleep in my car.
I have too many other fish to fry to waste my time hunting for a partner. There's porn everywhere. If your libido needs tending, the porno girls are prettier, they never say no, and they won't come back on you years later. What's not to like?
Yikes...that's one way to feed/perpetuate the problem, I suppose..."porno girls are pretteir, they never say no, and they won't come back on you years later." What's not to like? Well, you, Mr. Wills. I hate to be the one to shatter your fantasy, but your pretty porno girls don't like you, either... because they aren't "real", nor is your capacity to connect with other humans who are just as hurt and frustrated as you are. Tragic, really...you might not be sleeping in your car, but you will be sleeping alone. Oh, sorry, not alone...you will have your phone, after all.
My two sons have college trust funds, which started out very small but have never used, so they have accumulated considerably in the past thirty years. The trusts were protected from my two divorces, much to my wives' dismay, and I have advised my sons to make CERTAIN that a pre-nup is in place should they ever be foolish enough to marry. Both understand and have agreed. Heed the words of Rod Stewart, "If I ever decide to marry again, I'll just find a woman I don't like and buy her a house."
Be careful with Trust accounts as the Courts made 3 on me, one with my Mother's WILL plus they set one up after I died and even used that money for every one else. The next one when my Farm was sold and took that money from me in another Trust Account and the 3rd one was when my inherited family home was sold to put me out on to the Street. And WILLS are not your property in Canada.
You are describing a form of depopulation. The survivors will come from the women who have children, be they of the single parent variety or the traditionally minded.
I found this conversation was happening parallel to reality with occasional coincidence with it. The point about love was salient. But feminism, not post-feminism, has destroyed human relationships. And #MeToo has undermined men's trust in women, while making women leery of all men. The worst upshot of #MeToo was how all women went back through their sexual history and rewrote their attitudes, demonising experiences and persons retroactively. Nothing has been the same since. If you actually talk to men these days, you'll find that they're mostly heartbroken by vicious female behaviour. As for incels and "deserving" - no one deserves anything, period. The idea that we all deserve love is complete garbage. If we were striving for self-betterment and if both partners in a relationship strive for this, they'll likely be fine. What men are finding is that women want men to better themselves whilst they are to be accepted for who they are. In the end, I found this conversation approached maturity, but didn't quite get there. Drop the virtue signalling and deal with the fact that women want men to be tough and stoic. Gender stereotypes are in full force in the real world. Grow up and let's talk about it.
Well, as in most things, competition saves the day. Ever since God invented the jet aeroplane we've had the availability of women from more traditional cultures. Russia, for example. The Philippines or Thailand, for example, if you like sweet, beautiful, brown women. And then there are the highly-educated and thoughtful beauties from The Czech Republic. No, the great philosopher, Burton Cummings, said it years ago: American Woman, Stay Away From Me.
I agree. I think this has been quite the project over the last few decades. However, it seems that at the same time women have been cajoled to be more selfish, less loving and less open.
Men are constantly held to a high standard and always have been. It amazes me how certain feminist myths about men circulate without criticism. "It's easier for men in the workplace." "Men aren't given a hard time over their observations or recommendations." What happened is women walked into the masculine environment and found it rough, and thought it was about them being women. Men raz each other. They're tough on each other. Errors are handled with severity. So when women wanted equal treatment, they got it and didn't / still don't like it. Maybe those environments needed changing. That's not my point. It's just false that women are given a harder time than men. The reverse is generally true.
I have a 40 year corporate career where I have worked for and with women and men. At one point I was one of three executives reporting to a COO. The COO was female and my two peer executive managers were also female. I was the only male in the management team. The COO was impressive and balanced. She was a mother and had a motherly instinct, but was sharp as nails and could read the room and proactively manage her needed relationships. You could tell an off color joke around her... she would do the same. She played golf with "the boys" and could also handle a two martini lunch. But there was no confusing her with being male. She should have been the CEO, but she turned it down and retired early.
For the other two of my peers, one was what I would label as a feminist. She was super bright, but had a chip on her shoulder and was hyper-sensitive about many things. She went on to work in government. The other one was committed to being one of the guys. But since she wasn't a guy, it never played very well... it came off as a phony act. She never advanced and grew her own chip claiming gender discrimination.
Thinking back on my experience at that time and thinking about the COO and how her identity and performance was a reflection of the very same that any effective male peer would demonstrate. In most of corporate America these days gender does not matter. All that matters is that the employee has the right stuff to be effective. The ONLY material difference is that females have a victim excuse to fall back on if their careers don't meet their expectations. Not only do men NOT have that excuse, but they must also combat the constant criticism that they are privileged oppressors of others and need to be forced to accept less as those with victim credentials are promoted above them.
Your COO who retired early was one of those rare but effective employees that would go into any field without the need to already see herself working there, in gender and/ or race. Some people just have the aptitude for a job and call their own shots. Which is why she retired early, she had enough of the corporate world probably and wanted some quality of life in her later years.
Yes, but the point is that generally people don't get to those higher levels unless they have and demonstrate the right stuff. And today gender has little to do with it.
You don't really expect honesty from women on this topic, do you? This topic is their #1 weapon in the war between the sexes. Do you expect them to admit mis-using it? No. No. I' married and out of this whole dating / hooking game, but I find Frank Lee's comment below to be on the mark and your "not sure" to be a hoot.
Willing the good of another is the definition of love. Maybe that’s what’s missing in today’s sexual circus. Love someone before having sex. I think we’ve progressed so far that we’re starting to regress. Intentional monogamy anyone??
Going back quite a few centuries, monogamy was an invention to stabilize society, enforced by the culture, the Church. Women increased their security and peace of mind since men weren't allowed to leave. Children had the benefit of two parents, who at least back then, instilled their values into the children.
What a quagmire. So much to say, but I'll stick to a single point. In my day, "willing the good of the other" was called "respect". As a man, I was raised to respect women (or else!!!), and I was taught to be a "gentleman". Feminism taught me that being a gentleman actually disrespected women by reinforcing the patriarchy and toxic masculine values. I've tried to modify my understanding of what it means to be a gentleman, but I'm frequently unsure whether my behaviour will be regarded as respectful or disrespectful. It's a jungle out there.
"What does it mean when a billionaire can almost single-handedly swoop in and eat up this sort of communications platform? The easy answer is nothing good."
"That one man can so easily take it over and turn it into a plaything should be seen as a threat to us all."
"Even the most intelligent, sober-minded, responsible individual is too fallible to unilaterally decide the fates of millions."
Reading this reinforces my long held observation and opinion that the so called 3rd/4th waves of Feminism have been BS non starters. Far from empowering young women of the last 3 decades to feel confident in negotiating their way through forming relationships, education, working or careering, parenthood and forming stable families they feel more anxious and confused than ever. A movement that leaves its followers feeling cynical and exploited has lost its way or been expropriated by bad actors.
The last true wave of Feminism was the second wave of the 60s-70s and the movement has been abeyance ever since.
Sperm is plentiful, lifelong, and cheap. Most men are therefore disposable. Eggs are few, short-lived, and very expensive. Women are thus the foundation of humanity. All else flows from this reality. Men sought sex with anyone, anywhere, anytime and were willing to pay for it; women traded sex for the commitment of male resources (protection and money) to raise the resultant children. Once that age-old bargain was broken (within recent memory) by empowered women utilizing the state to provide the resources to raise their children, the (mostly) healthy relationship between men and women that moderated the urges and behaviors of both was doomed. Incels and cat ladies among the middle and upper classes are the result while the lower classes are left to source future generations of the ineducable and unproductive.
This happens when the script is re-written as the actors don't know the their part. It will take years before the dust settles with different out comes.
Endless criticism.... that in a nutshell is what comprises most of modern intelligentsia. However it gets us nowhere but further down a hole. Earlier generations did not have time for these luxury pursuits, they had to put food on the table and keep the wolf from the door.
That we're doing less of the social construct of "marriage" is a GOOD thing.
That people are having less babies is a GOOD thing.
In my lifetime alone we've gone from 3.5 billion humans to 8 billion humans.
This species is a joke.
How about we give other large mammals a chance and stop hogging all the resources for ourselves.
Feminism has achieved some victories but is now being pushed backwards by regressive religious/woke forces.
The problem is while 70s feminism changed women's expectations for the better, governmental social structures didn't adapt.
The earlier gay rights movements were not at all interested in joining the marriage narrative, they wanted freedom from that social construct. But as with feminism, gay rights got taken over by religious and then woke conformists.
Homo sapiens is not a biologically monogamous species. The only purpose of marriage was to breed us like pigs to supply endless expendable male soldiers for the war machine.
Yet, nearly all of government services remain focused on paying to create yet more humans, and giving discounts for couple-life, coercing people who'd otherwise not want marriage into choosing it just to make ends meet.
Early feminism made great promises of LIBERATION, later feminism became a wine fest while accomplishing only frustration.
We need to return to the roots of feminism, never about equalism, but about FREEDOM.
Sadly, women today, on both sides of the aisle, have totally forgotten the value of FREEDOM, in all political issues.
Why Men are afraid? Does Christine talk about the money women get from their partners as now in Ontario is $40,000. After being married for 27yrs I found out the Truth way the Ex-father-in-law was in prison for. As I was working and didn't know why at the time. My first Lawyer had the paper work. How I was removed by the Courts was wrong and false also. The Courts want to protect the criminals at all costs as the Brothers can make money too.
I broke down and watched a ROMCOM with my wife last night. It was released in 2018. We both agreed that it would not be made the same today, and that in a few short years the feminists have seemed to advance their war on traditional gender relationships and succeeded in blowing it to smithereens.
I have two sons in their late 20s and early 30s. They are educated, good looking, caring and thoughtful. They both have good jobs. They both had girlfriends in high school. One had a relationship in college. But today both are single and not dating. They frankly see the female dating pool as having been infected with some type of mental disorder. They are completely unsure of gender norms and relationships rules. They see females as being unreasonable in their expectations and have just decided to check out and hang with their male friends instead.
This is not good. I don't know what the solution is, but something has to change.
I have a son in college. He already has this view "They frankly see the female dating pool as having been infected with some type of mental disorder." Early bloomer I guess or just it all happened at the same time to all North American women about a decade ago.
I am SO happy I wasn't born in this century. OMG. And, if they "enjoy" a longer life, they have to put up with this crap for longer. Noooooop.
Hey Penny: Apparently you aren't familiar with current 3rd/4th-wave gender feminism. I may not have called it a mental disorder but it is deeply, deeply confused, misandrist, and utterly unmoored to biological reality. It's not "misogyny" to point that out.
I went to college in the 90s (thank God) but the beginning of these attitudes from women about “dating like the guys do” was already creeping in. Only I observed this: none of the women were happy when they were hooking up. They were all looking for someone. They would sit around the apartment and wait for the guys to call them blame the guys when they didn’t. I’m far from perfect but I thought it was stupid and completely reactionary to what the men were doing. It made no sense. Also the “I hate men” narrative is so corrosive because it teaches women to vilify a guy’s every move and takes away their own agency.
The most mature and successful women I knew never participated in hookup culture and found stable and loving partners. But this was considered prudish behavior or that the young women were religious.
I’ve worked for many years now and definitely saw my share of piggish behavior from men, but I’ve also seen the same from women.
I've seen it in teaching my university classes, and then gone home to see my three young sons, and felt deeply concerned and saddened.
We don't teach it. It is their world. It took me a long time to realize it. I don't even understand it. What do I know about college women in the year 2021????? You missed the point. These "creeps" don't seem to WANT to "date" anyone's daughter. And I am not surprised, even though I can only guess at the reality of it all.
Pull out the "misogyny" card again. That is always good for a laugh. At you.
re: mental disorder. Perfect description. It's not "misogyny" when it's a fact. I'm twice-divorced, with two sons near thirty. Neither has a girlfriend, and believe me, despite the best efforts of my married friends to "fix me up," I'd sooner sleep with a rattlesnake. It's simply too dangerous for a man - young or old - to "date" these days. If some casual sex partner decides ten years later that she now remembers the encounter as regretful, you get your rump hauled into court for The Inquisition. And then there's the prodigious divorce-threat to your finances. No thanks. I'm too old to sleep in my car.
I have too many other fish to fry to waste my time hunting for a partner. There's porn everywhere. If your libido needs tending, the porno girls are prettier, they never say no, and they won't come back on you years later. What's not to like?
Yikes...that's one way to feed/perpetuate the problem, I suppose..."porno girls are pretteir, they never say no, and they won't come back on you years later." What's not to like? Well, you, Mr. Wills. I hate to be the one to shatter your fantasy, but your pretty porno girls don't like you, either... because they aren't "real", nor is your capacity to connect with other humans who are just as hurt and frustrated as you are. Tragic, really...you might not be sleeping in your car, but you will be sleeping alone. Oh, sorry, not alone...you will have your phone, after all.
The Courts took me back 30 yrs to be 18 again, with no family all taken away. Starting over again after 13 yrs in Court is not a happy time.
My two sons have college trust funds, which started out very small but have never used, so they have accumulated considerably in the past thirty years. The trusts were protected from my two divorces, much to my wives' dismay, and I have advised my sons to make CERTAIN that a pre-nup is in place should they ever be foolish enough to marry. Both understand and have agreed. Heed the words of Rod Stewart, "If I ever decide to marry again, I'll just find a woman I don't like and buy her a house."
Be careful with Trust accounts as the Courts made 3 on me, one with my Mother's WILL plus they set one up after I died and even used that money for every one else. The next one when my Farm was sold and took that money from me in another Trust Account and the 3rd one was when my inherited family home was sold to put me out on to the Street. And WILLS are not your property in Canada.
You are describing a form of depopulation. The survivors will come from the women who have children, be they of the single parent variety or the traditionally minded.
It is not good as a husband-wife partnership is proven superior in economic and social outcomes.
The yin/yang form a whole, and they can't really be re-invented as a rainbow
You patriarch you
I found this conversation was happening parallel to reality with occasional coincidence with it. The point about love was salient. But feminism, not post-feminism, has destroyed human relationships. And #MeToo has undermined men's trust in women, while making women leery of all men. The worst upshot of #MeToo was how all women went back through their sexual history and rewrote their attitudes, demonising experiences and persons retroactively. Nothing has been the same since. If you actually talk to men these days, you'll find that they're mostly heartbroken by vicious female behaviour. As for incels and "deserving" - no one deserves anything, period. The idea that we all deserve love is complete garbage. If we were striving for self-betterment and if both partners in a relationship strive for this, they'll likely be fine. What men are finding is that women want men to better themselves whilst they are to be accepted for who they are. In the end, I found this conversation approached maturity, but didn't quite get there. Drop the virtue signalling and deal with the fact that women want men to be tough and stoic. Gender stereotypes are in full force in the real world. Grow up and let's talk about it.
Well, as in most things, competition saves the day. Ever since God invented the jet aeroplane we've had the availability of women from more traditional cultures. Russia, for example. The Philippines or Thailand, for example, if you like sweet, beautiful, brown women. And then there are the highly-educated and thoughtful beauties from The Czech Republic. No, the great philosopher, Burton Cummings, said it years ago: American Woman, Stay Away From Me.
It sure seems that women have been groomed for same-sex relationships.
CE: Men aren’t asked in this society to be better, or more loving, or more open people themselves.
Not sure this statement is correct.
I agree. I think this has been quite the project over the last few decades. However, it seems that at the same time women have been cajoled to be more selfish, less loving and less open.
Men are constantly held to a high standard and always have been. It amazes me how certain feminist myths about men circulate without criticism. "It's easier for men in the workplace." "Men aren't given a hard time over their observations or recommendations." What happened is women walked into the masculine environment and found it rough, and thought it was about them being women. Men raz each other. They're tough on each other. Errors are handled with severity. So when women wanted equal treatment, they got it and didn't / still don't like it. Maybe those environments needed changing. That's not my point. It's just false that women are given a harder time than men. The reverse is generally true.
I have a 40 year corporate career where I have worked for and with women and men. At one point I was one of three executives reporting to a COO. The COO was female and my two peer executive managers were also female. I was the only male in the management team. The COO was impressive and balanced. She was a mother and had a motherly instinct, but was sharp as nails and could read the room and proactively manage her needed relationships. You could tell an off color joke around her... she would do the same. She played golf with "the boys" and could also handle a two martini lunch. But there was no confusing her with being male. She should have been the CEO, but she turned it down and retired early.
For the other two of my peers, one was what I would label as a feminist. She was super bright, but had a chip on her shoulder and was hyper-sensitive about many things. She went on to work in government. The other one was committed to being one of the guys. But since she wasn't a guy, it never played very well... it came off as a phony act. She never advanced and grew her own chip claiming gender discrimination.
Thinking back on my experience at that time and thinking about the COO and how her identity and performance was a reflection of the very same that any effective male peer would demonstrate. In most of corporate America these days gender does not matter. All that matters is that the employee has the right stuff to be effective. The ONLY material difference is that females have a victim excuse to fall back on if their careers don't meet their expectations. Not only do men NOT have that excuse, but they must also combat the constant criticism that they are privileged oppressors of others and need to be forced to accept less as those with victim credentials are promoted above them.
Your COO who retired early was one of those rare but effective employees that would go into any field without the need to already see herself working there, in gender and/ or race. Some people just have the aptitude for a job and call their own shots. Which is why she retired early, she had enough of the corporate world probably and wanted some quality of life in her later years.
Yes, but the point is that generally people don't get to those higher levels unless they have and demonstrate the right stuff. And today gender has little to do with it.
You don't really expect honesty from women on this topic, do you? This topic is their #1 weapon in the war between the sexes. Do you expect them to admit mis-using it? No. No. I' married and out of this whole dating / hooking game, but I find Frank Lee's comment below to be on the mark and your "not sure" to be a hoot.
Willing the good of another is the definition of love. Maybe that’s what’s missing in today’s sexual circus. Love someone before having sex. I think we’ve progressed so far that we’re starting to regress. Intentional monogamy anyone??
Going back quite a few centuries, monogamy was an invention to stabilize society, enforced by the culture, the Church. Women increased their security and peace of mind since men weren't allowed to leave. Children had the benefit of two parents, who at least back then, instilled their values into the children.
Well, you are a degenerate and a part of the problem being discussed.
What a quagmire. So much to say, but I'll stick to a single point. In my day, "willing the good of the other" was called "respect". As a man, I was raised to respect women (or else!!!), and I was taught to be a "gentleman". Feminism taught me that being a gentleman actually disrespected women by reinforcing the patriarchy and toxic masculine values. I've tried to modify my understanding of what it means to be a gentleman, but I'm frequently unsure whether my behaviour will be regarded as respectful or disrespectful. It's a jungle out there.
Emba-- of the Washington Post--on Elon Musk:
"What does it mean when a billionaire can almost single-handedly swoop in and eat up this sort of communications platform? The easy answer is nothing good."
"That one man can so easily take it over and turn it into a plaything should be seen as a threat to us all."
"Even the most intelligent, sober-minded, responsible individual is too fallible to unilaterally decide the fates of millions."
.
Didn't seem to stop Gates from controlling all media and governments with his TNI and WHO.
It took only a few paragraphs of this to see Emba is only wearing sheep's clothing. That Limited Hangout theory grows stronger every week.
Excellent metaphor.
Isn't that telling...
just because it's mot a billionaire of your choice ? who cares which billionaire runs twitsrus
Thanks for the reminder to never, ever date a feminist.
Reading this reinforces my long held observation and opinion that the so called 3rd/4th waves of Feminism have been BS non starters. Far from empowering young women of the last 3 decades to feel confident in negotiating their way through forming relationships, education, working or careering, parenthood and forming stable families they feel more anxious and confused than ever. A movement that leaves its followers feeling cynical and exploited has lost its way or been expropriated by bad actors.
The last true wave of Feminism was the second wave of the 60s-70s and the movement has been abeyance ever since.
Sperm is plentiful, lifelong, and cheap. Most men are therefore disposable. Eggs are few, short-lived, and very expensive. Women are thus the foundation of humanity. All else flows from this reality. Men sought sex with anyone, anywhere, anytime and were willing to pay for it; women traded sex for the commitment of male resources (protection and money) to raise the resultant children. Once that age-old bargain was broken (within recent memory) by empowered women utilizing the state to provide the resources to raise their children, the (mostly) healthy relationship between men and women that moderated the urges and behaviors of both was doomed. Incels and cat ladies among the middle and upper classes are the result while the lower classes are left to source future generations of the ineducable and unproductive.
This happens when the script is re-written as the actors don't know the their part. It will take years before the dust settles with different out comes.
Fantastic, thanks to both of you for that interview...
Endless criticism.... that in a nutshell is what comprises most of modern intelligentsia. However it gets us nowhere but further down a hole. Earlier generations did not have time for these luxury pursuits, they had to put food on the table and keep the wolf from the door.
Unfortunately, we seem to be headed back into wolf from the door times. Silver lining and all I guess...
Yes, the WHO is slated to control our countries pretty soon, all under the guise of a new pandemic that Gates promises us will be a real humdinger.
That we're doing less of the social construct of "marriage" is a GOOD thing.
That people are having less babies is a GOOD thing.
In my lifetime alone we've gone from 3.5 billion humans to 8 billion humans.
This species is a joke.
How about we give other large mammals a chance and stop hogging all the resources for ourselves.
Feminism has achieved some victories but is now being pushed backwards by regressive religious/woke forces.
The problem is while 70s feminism changed women's expectations for the better, governmental social structures didn't adapt.
The earlier gay rights movements were not at all interested in joining the marriage narrative, they wanted freedom from that social construct. But as with feminism, gay rights got taken over by religious and then woke conformists.
Homo sapiens is not a biologically monogamous species. The only purpose of marriage was to breed us like pigs to supply endless expendable male soldiers for the war machine.
Yet, nearly all of government services remain focused on paying to create yet more humans, and giving discounts for couple-life, coercing people who'd otherwise not want marriage into choosing it just to make ends meet.
Early feminism made great promises of LIBERATION, later feminism became a wine fest while accomplishing only frustration.
We need to return to the roots of feminism, never about equalism, but about FREEDOM.
Sadly, women today, on both sides of the aisle, have totally forgotten the value of FREEDOM, in all political issues.
Literally none of that is a good thing
Q) Where's a misanthrope's most potent erogenous zone?
A) Pediatric oncology.
Why Men are afraid? Does Christine talk about the money women get from their partners as now in Ontario is $40,000. After being married for 27yrs I found out the Truth way the Ex-father-in-law was in prison for. As I was working and didn't know why at the time. My first Lawyer had the paper work. How I was removed by the Courts was wrong and false also. The Courts want to protect the criminals at all costs as the Brothers can make money too.
Great stuff as always.