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I broke down and watched a ROMCOM with my wife last night. It was released in 2018. We both agreed that it would not be made the same today, and that in a few short years the feminists have seemed to advance their war on traditional gender relationships and succeeded in blowing it to smithereens.

I have two sons in their late 20s and early 30s. They are educated, good looking, caring and thoughtful. They both have good jobs. They both had girlfriends in high school. One had a relationship in college. But today both are single and not dating. They frankly see the female dating pool as having been infected with some type of mental disorder. They are completely unsure of gender norms and relationships rules. They see females as being unreasonable in their expectations and have just decided to check out and hang with their male friends instead.

This is not good. I don't know what the solution is, but something has to change.

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I found this conversation was happening parallel to reality with occasional coincidence with it. The point about love was salient. But feminism, not post-feminism, has destroyed human relationships. And #MeToo has undermined men's trust in women, while making women leery of all men. The worst upshot of #MeToo was how all women went back through their sexual history and rewrote their attitudes, demonising experiences and persons retroactively. Nothing has been the same since. If you actually talk to men these days, you'll find that they're mostly heartbroken by vicious female behaviour. As for incels and "deserving" - no one deserves anything, period. The idea that we all deserve love is complete garbage. If we were striving for self-betterment and if both partners in a relationship strive for this, they'll likely be fine. What men are finding is that women want men to better themselves whilst they are to be accepted for who they are. In the end, I found this conversation approached maturity, but didn't quite get there. Drop the virtue signalling and deal with the fact that women want men to be tough and stoic. Gender stereotypes are in full force in the real world. Grow up and let's talk about it.

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It sure seems that women have been groomed for same-sex relationships.

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CE: Men aren’t asked in this society to be better, or more loving, or more open people themselves.

Not sure this statement is correct.

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Willing the good of another is the definition of love. Maybe that’s what’s missing in today’s sexual circus. Love someone before having sex. I think we’ve progressed so far that we’re starting to regress. Intentional monogamy anyone??

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What a quagmire. So much to say, but I'll stick to a single point. In my day, "willing the good of the other" was called "respect". As a man, I was raised to respect women (or else!!!), and I was taught to be a "gentleman". Feminism taught me that being a gentleman actually disrespected women by reinforcing the patriarchy and toxic masculine values. I've tried to modify my understanding of what it means to be a gentleman, but I'm frequently unsure whether my behaviour will be regarded as respectful or disrespectful. It's a jungle out there.

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Emba-- of the Washington Post--on Elon Musk:

"What does it mean when a billionaire can almost single-handedly swoop in and eat up this sort of communications platform? The easy answer is nothing good."

"That one man can so easily take it over and turn it into a plaything should be seen as a threat to us all."

"Even the most intelligent, sober-minded, responsible individual is too fallible to unilaterally decide the fates of millions."

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Thanks for the reminder to never, ever date a feminist.

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Reading this reinforces my long held observation and opinion that the so called 3rd/4th waves of Feminism have been BS non starters. Far from empowering young women of the last 3 decades to feel confident in negotiating their way through forming relationships, education, working or careering, parenthood and forming stable families they feel more anxious and confused than ever. A movement that leaves its followers feeling cynical and exploited has lost its way or been expropriated by bad actors.

The last true wave of Feminism was the second wave of the 60s-70s and the movement has been abeyance ever since.

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Sperm is plentiful, lifelong, and cheap. Most men are therefore disposable. Eggs are few, short-lived, and very expensive. Women are thus the foundation of humanity. All else flows from this reality. Men sought sex with anyone, anywhere, anytime and were willing to pay for it; women traded sex for the commitment of male resources (protection and money) to raise the resultant children. Once that age-old bargain was broken (within recent memory) by empowered women utilizing the state to provide the resources to raise their children, the (mostly) healthy relationship between men and women that moderated the urges and behaviors of both was doomed. Incels and cat ladies among the middle and upper classes are the result while the lower classes are left to source future generations of the ineducable and unproductive.

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This happens when the script is re-written as the actors don't know the their part. It will take years before the dust settles with different out comes.

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Fantastic, thanks to both of you for that interview...

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Endless criticism.... that in a nutshell is what comprises most of modern intelligentsia. However it gets us nowhere but further down a hole. Earlier generations did not have time for these luxury pursuits, they had to put food on the table and keep the wolf from the door.

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That we're doing less of the social construct of "marriage" is a GOOD thing.

That people are having less babies is a GOOD thing.

In my lifetime alone we've gone from 3.5 billion humans to 8 billion humans.

This species is a joke.

How about we give other large mammals a chance and stop hogging all the resources for ourselves.

Feminism has achieved some victories but is now being pushed backwards by regressive religious/woke forces.

The problem is while 70s feminism changed women's expectations for the better, governmental social structures didn't adapt.

The earlier gay rights movements were not at all interested in joining the marriage narrative, they wanted freedom from that social construct. But as with feminism, gay rights got taken over by religious and then woke conformists.

Homo sapiens is not a biologically monogamous species. The only purpose of marriage was to breed us like pigs to supply endless expendable male soldiers for the war machine.

Yet, nearly all of government services remain focused on paying to create yet more humans, and giving discounts for couple-life, coercing people who'd otherwise not want marriage into choosing it just to make ends meet.

Early feminism made great promises of LIBERATION, later feminism became a wine fest while accomplishing only frustration.

We need to return to the roots of feminism, never about equalism, but about FREEDOM.

Sadly, women today, on both sides of the aisle, have totally forgotten the value of FREEDOM, in all political issues.

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Why Men are afraid? Does Christine talk about the money women get from their partners as now in Ontario is $40,000. After being married for 27yrs I found out the Truth way the Ex-father-in-law was in prison for. As I was working and didn't know why at the time. My first Lawyer had the paper work. How I was removed by the Courts was wrong and false also. The Courts want to protect the criminals at all costs as the Brothers can make money too.

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Great stuff as always.

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